-Caveat Lector- David Gould wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the North info to this progammer, and received > this reply: > > I agree with the statements below. I own a software development company > in the heart of the Detroit automotive community, and among other > things, we developed a software product for Y2K. We have been watching > industry since '96 and believe many of them won't be ready come the > Millenium. > > Here is an example for you: > > A small car like the Neon from Chrysler, has approximately 25,000 > individual part numbers ranging from bolts to tires. This works out to > about 2000 suppliers. What are the odds all 2000 suppliers will be > prepared? The automotive industry is entirely automated, based on > just-in-time manufacturing principles that require a three day inventory > > of parts. The logistics required to continually supply an assembly plant > > manufacturing 600 cars (average) a day, every three days is staggering. > The big three will not be producing cars over the Millenium! > > The statistic you quoted "23. General Motors has 2 billion lines of code > > and 100,000 suppliers," was released to the public in early 1997. Gm > hired Deloitte Touche to audit their systems and report back their > executive with the results. Rumors had it that when Deloitte presented > the numbers quoted above, some of their executives were on the verge of > fainting. GM subsequently followed up later in the year with a statement > > that read that their remediation efforts were on schedule and that they > would be testing the remediated code in 1999. I couldn't count to 2 > billion in this time frame, let alone scan through that many lines of > code scattered across factories all over the world. > > > 13. No microcomputer can safely be assumed to be compliant. All of > them > must > > be tested. So must their software, especially spreadsheets. This has > not > > been done, and the sale of y2k testing software so far has been > minimal. > > Approximately 170,000 organizations worldwide use a midrange server > platform from IBM, called the AS/400, to run their mission critical > business systems. To date, there have been only 2000 sales worldwide of > software that could be used to remediate the source code stored on those > > machines. I know for a fact that this figure has been exaggerated by > competitive software vendors. We are not sure how or if these > organizations fixed their systems, if at all. > > This problem is worse than the public imagines because they extent of > automation is invisible. I have many engineering friends who are very > knowledgeable about computers and automation, but have never worked in > information systems to understand the extent of the issues at hand. They > > have written programs to run simulations, control a process, etc... but > have never seen how banks, and large companies routinely move and store > enormous amounts of information. Unfortunately, most engineers believe > Y2K is not a problem, and this lack of support hurt Y2K awareness from > the start. > > I could go on about Y2K. > > If you are interested, I post current Y2K article links daily from news > organizations around the world at www.pursuitcorp.com/articles.html. > > Regards, > > Chris Psinas > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > ---- > > Category: > > Introduction > > Date: > > 1999-07-30 20:09:10 > > Subject: > > The Y2K State of the Union as of July 30, 1999 > > Comment: > > It is time to present my summary of what is incontrovertibly true, > with > > only five months to go. I shall low-ball my remarks, making them as > close > to > > unchallengeable as I can. These should be the starting points in any > > discussion of the impact of y2k in 2000, whether national or personal. > > > > > I hereby grant the right of anyone to reprint all or a part of this > list, > so > > long as a link to this document is provided. > > > > 1. The number of companies in the world that have reported 100% > compliance > > of all mission-critical systems, and 100% compliance of its vendors > and > > suppliers, is zero. We do not have to raise the two issues of final, > > integrated testing and third-party verification until one such company > > > appears. > > > > 2. Noncompliant data will corrupt compliant data when imported into > > compliant systems. > > > > 3. To screen out bad data, an organization must cut off or filter > > computerized communications with noncompliant computers. It must know > which > > outside computers are noncompliant. It must presume that all of them > are > > noncompliant until proven otherwise. > > > > 4. The larger the number of data exchanges, the greater the likelihood > of > a > > major failure (the Beach/Oleson pain index). The Federal Reserve > System > has > > 316,862 of these links to the outside. > > > > 5. When the cut-off of outside contacts takes place, no industry will > remain > > compliant with all of its present producers. Bankruptcies will > escalate. > > > > 6. There is no compliant industry today. > > > > 7. No major money center bank on earth is compliant. > > > > 8. No national government is compliant. > > > > 9. Two state governments in the U.S. have claimed compliance. > > > > 10. At least 19 of 21 large U.S. cities are noncompliant. > > > > 11. There is insufficient time to identify and replace all > noncompliant > > embedded chips. The world has by default adopted "fix on failure." > > > > 12. Noncompliant 286 and 386 computers are still in use all over the > world, > > sometimes in control systems. > > > > 13. No microcomputer can safely be assumed to be compliant. All of > them > must > > be tested. So must their software, especially spreadsheets. This has > not > > been done, and the sale of y2k testing software so far has been > minimal. > > > > 14. The U.S. train transportation system is not compliant. > > > > 15. Very few power generation companies have announced > mission-critical > > compliance. > > > > 16. No large telephone company has announced full compliance. > > > > 17. Phones and electrical power plants are intertwined; the failure of > > one > > will bring down the other. > > > > 18. Public water/sewer systems are not compliant, all over the world. > > > > 19. The chemical industry is way behind. > > > > 20. Chemicals are basic to manufacturing, and also to the treatment of > > > drinking water. > > > > 21. Diesel and gasoline are chemicals. > > > > 22. No oil exporting country is compliant. The U.S. imports over half > of > its > > oil. > > > > 23. General Motors has 2 billion lines of code and 100,000 suppliers. > > > > 24. If a component is missing on an assembly line, the line must be > shut > > down. (Example: the 1998 strike of GM's 9,200 new parts plant > employees, > > which led to the temporary layoffs of over 100,000 other GM > employees.) > > > > 25. Parts wear out. This includes turbines in power plants. > > > > 26. The typical large city power plant has 5,000 suppliers. > > > > 27. If a company sells to noncompliant companies, it will suffer a > reduction > > of orders in 2000. > > > > 28 The division of labor is international. > > > > 29. Capital flows are computerized. > > > > 30. Most of the world's capital is digital. > > > > 31. Russia is sitting on top of a huge nuclear arsenal that will > become > > unpredictable on January 1. > > > > 32. The health care industry is considered to be very far behind in > every > > nation. > > > > 33. Public health systems are today not at the top of most > politicians' > > "must fund" list. These low-visibility programs have no politically > > significant constituents. It will take a public health disaster to > gain > such > > constituents. > > > > 34 Although Medicare (HCFA) now claims 100% compliance, none of the 70 > > > companies that provide the HCFA with its administrative services has > > announced compliance. > > > > 35. Although the FAA claims 100% compliance, only one major airport > has: > > Atlanta. > > > > 36. If commercial aircraft cannot legally fly, their owners cannot > meet > > their bank payments. > > > > 37. The FDIC's bank insurance program is not compliant. > > > > 38. The FDIC has $1.40 for every $100 in insured deposits, and 80% of > this > > money is invested in U.S. government debt. > > > > 39. If most banks are closed, the U.S. government cannot collect > revenues > by > > check to fund this debt, which means the FDIC cannot get paid, which > means > > that the banks will remain closed. > > > > 40. The Internal Revenue Service is not compliant. > > > > 41. The U.S. Treasury Department is not compliant. > > > > 42. The U.S. Department of Defense is not compliant. > > > > 43. The U.S. Navy defends Taiwan. > > > > 44. Taiwan has just declared unilaterally the end of the 50-year "one > China" > > policy, which is basic to Communist China's foreign policy. > > > > 45. We import most of our microcomputer chips from Taiwan. > > > > 46. Germany is behind France. > > > > 47. Italy? What can I say? It got started on y2k this year. > > > > 48. For every $100 in U.S. bank deposits there is less than $1.20 in > > currency reserves in bank vaults. > > > > 49. There is about $6 trillion in electronic U.S. money (M-3). > > > > 50. There is about $525 billion in currency outside of banks, of which > > some > > two-thirds is believed to be outside the U.S. > > > > 51. The Federal Reserve System says it has $150 billion in currency > and > > another $50 billion coming by December. Banks must either sell assets > to > buy > > this currency or borrow from the FED, thereby reducing their > capital/assets > > ratio. > > > > 52. The Bureau of Engraving and Printing is at maximum capacity now > just > to > > replace old currency. > > > > 53. The Crane Corp. has had a monopoly on manufacturing paper for U.S. > > > currency since 1879, so no great increase in output can be expected by > > > December. > > > > 54. If there are no small bills to make change, the fast food industry > > will > > go bankrupt. But to maximize the value of the currency supply, the > Federal > > Reserve System must issue large-denomination bills. It has not said > what > the > > ratio is for the newly printed bills' denominations. > > > > 55. 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