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Thank you, Mr. Goat. I rest my case.
Jean
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At 05:38 AM 9/6/99 EDT, Das GOAT wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
>In a message dated 99-09-05 13:55:14 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>>> because the devisers of NLP --Bandler & Grinder-- clearly and explicitly
>>> created their system as a way of "pinning down" the extraordinary
>abilitity
>>> of one man, Dr Milton Erickson, to "hypnotize."
>>
>>Mnsr Chevre, can you please, elaborate on this? Sounds interesting.
>
>
>The best portrait of Dr Milton Erickson's methods --as much instinctive
>(seemingly "psychic") as calculated-- is Jay Haley's "Uncommon Therapy,"
>1986, Norton & Co.
>
>Dr Erickson, a private practitioner specializing in Medical Hypnosis who in
>his later years operated out of Arizona, can be thought of as the "Einstein"
>of hypnosis. His uncanny grasp of subconscious thought processes and his
>recognition of the key role played by subtle vocal shifts in hypnotic
>communication, among other things, led to a virtual revolution in the rather
>"Newtonian" realm of hypnosis, until then (and alas, even now, mostly)
>dominated by "stage hypnotists" who really knew no more about the
>psychodynamics of trance than the pioneers in that field back in the 19th
>Century.
>
>Most of Erickson's insights were discovered simply by his own keen
>observation of others when he found himself an invalid confined to bed (with
>polio, I believe) early in his career. He was very much an empathetic
>"people person" extraordinarily capable of "tuning in" to others while simply
>talking to them in the normal course of therapy, and his sharp eye (and
>especially ear) took note of the slightest changes in body language, voice
>pattern, breathing rhythm, etc, accompanying each subconscious responses, so
>that, after many years of such observations, he was able to DIRECT those
>responses, in the same way that a tuning fork can cause other tuning forks to
>resonate in harmony.
>Another gift of Erickson's was his unique ability to JOIN his patients in the
>so-called "trance" state, even while supervising the subject's hypnotic work,
>so great was his understanding of hypnotic processes from his OWN EXPERIENCE
>of them -- something that put him in a category all by himself, compared to
>the clumsy "stage hypnotists."
>
>Erickson attended U. of Wisconsin in the '20s, majoring in psychology, and
>received a medical degree at Colorado General Hospital. In the '30s he
>became a psychiatrist and held positions in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and
>finally in Michigan, where he was a director of psychiatric research and
>training as well as an instructor in graduate school.
>In 1948 he moved to Phoenix, Arizona, for his health, and began a private
>practice in psychotherapy which included the use of clinical hypnosis. A
>Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological
>Association, he founded the American Society for Clinical Hypnosis, also
>editing its scientific journal on hypnosis.
>In the '50s he toured the country giving seminars in hypnosis for medical
>professionals.
>
>When Dr Gregory Bateson (a researcher into communication) and wife Margaret
>Mead filmed instances of "trance-dancing" in Bali, they turned to Milton
>Erickson --there being no greater expert in the field-- for help in correctly
>interpreting the phenomena observed.
>Bateson introduced Jay Haley (above) to Erickson in '53, and thereafter his
>fame grew.
>
>I am not aware of any wider participation by Erickson in Bateson's "Human
>Ecology" project, which some claim was CIA-funded and -controlled. (In my
>view, Bateson is one of the most brilliant minds of our age, alongside
>Buckminster Fuller, and I can't imagine him being "controlled" by ANYONE,
>especially for nefarious ends.) Erickson devoted most of his time to his
>practice and to hypnotic research, duly recorded in his Journal.
>All this can be found in "The Complete Works of Dr Milton Erickson,"
>published in at least twelve thick volumes (some with accompanying audio
>cassettes so that one can study the VOCAL element in hypnotic inductions)
>published sometime in the mid '70s.
>(The Erickson Institute of Hypnosis, run by his daughter, may still sell
>these volumes.)
>
>In his later years (he died in 1980), Dr Erickson was visited by unknowns
>Bandler and Grinder, who (I believe) had helped in preparation of Erickson's
>"Complete Works" and who pressed him to teach them his "secrets," in order to
>preserve these "for posterity." They asked him to explain in detail what he
>did and exactly how he did it -- so that his spontaneous, quasi-instinctive
>and individually tailored techniques could be turned into a "science" for
>wider application (in what became "Neurolinguistic Programming," Bandler &
>Grinder's own little private moneymaking machine -- what some might call a
>"cult." )
>So, Erickson's empathetic resonance with each individual patient was reduced
>to a rote formula exercised with everyone (broken down into certain
>pigeonholed "types"), and his sensitivity to (even MERGING with) subconscious
>thought processes in the distressed was replaced by the NLP practitioner's
>"automated" flowcharting of "system strategies."
>After Erickson died, Bandler & Grinder took what they had stolen <my
>judgment> from Erickson and used that as the basis for NLP, for their own
>personal glory (and profit), presenting themselves to their audience as the
>Werner Erhards of the "New" Hypnosis.
>The NLP "boom," after a decade or so, has more or less petered out, like the
>original EST -- helped along by the arrest of either Bandler or Grinder (I
>forget which) on charges of using NLP to seduce a woman into performing
>sadomasochistic sex acts with him against her will -- a clear illustration of
>the moral void in the duo's true motives ...
>
>Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the techniques recorded in the various
>NLP books available (most of which I've read and collected, by the way), even
>if I regard them as oversimplified, "automated" versions of Dr Erickson's
>superior skills. I'm just cynical about NLP being put up on a pedestal and
>treated as if the equal of clinical hypnosis in the hands of a
>psychotherapist with sensitive, humane instincts, like Milton Erickson, from
>whom the ONLY grains of truth in Neuro Linguistic Programming were ripped off
>-- by two "New Age Capitalists," yuppie con men, who ABUSED the mind FOR
>PROFIT.
>Their greatest abuse, IMHO, was MASS-producing "hypnosis," and without HEART.
>I hold NLP responsible for a de-individualizing of the psyche in "quick
>fixes" instead of humane hypnotherapy, and for "mechanizing" communications
>with the subconscious
>in such a way as to dehumanize what is most human in its idiosyncrasy. Dr
>Erickson was first and foremost a kindly, wise healer; Bandler & Grinder were
>just SALESMEN.
>
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