-Caveat Lector-
Thank you for a good, honest, straightforward question which also recognizes
the importance of the issue. Robots COULD be our Nemesis. So could atomic,
biological, chemical, or rocks-in-space sciences. All of these can be used
constructively or destructively. Robots are the ultimate "weapon of mass
CONSTRUCTION". They do only what they are told (programmed) to do unless we
should find that somehow they have become imbued with a soul or a programmer
has done something really STUPID. Robots are the "Ultimate Shmoo".They
could mine the asteroid belt and make every man, woman and child on Earth a
multi-billionaire. They could go on to mine the Oort Cloud and build a Dyson
Sphere around this star. They could find cures for diseases faster than any
humans. They could feed the starving billions. They could preach/teach
better than any pope or "Whitehouse Tele-Evangelist" (that's one of the
easier tasks). But the US WILL NOT BRING THIS TO FRUITION for the human
race because as it has proven from Iraq to Kosovo, it is NOT FIT TO LEAD THE
HUMAN RACE INTO SPACE COLONIZATION. It is obsessed with genocide and lies.
It is utterly immoral and predatory and depraved. It is an anti-culture. It
is the nation which sent Trotsky/Bronstein out from New York City to start
The Holocaust (of 60 million+ souls in Russia and surrounding regions) in
1917. So we look elsewhere for our "Robot-for-President". Maybe to Japan.
Maybe Russia. Or China. Maybe even Mars. But not the US.
FWP.
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From: earthman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Saturday, November 27, 1999 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] IUFO: Permanent Robotic Outposts in Space (fwd)
> -Caveat Lector-
>
>Do you think that robots, as in artificial Intelligence, will be our
>Nemesis?
>
>Peter
>
>We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
>http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: [CTRL] IUFO: Permanent Robotic Outposts in Space (fwd)
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>> -Caveat Lector-
>>
>> And what if those robotic outposts have programs built into them for
>> autonomous evolution (ie growth and development)?
>> FWP.
>>
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>> JPL Chief Predicts Permanent Robotic Outposts in Space
>>
>> 7.00 a.m. ET (1100 GMT) November 25, 1999 By Matthew Fordahl
>> PASADENA, Calif. â€" In a lecture that sometimes sounded more like
science
>> fiction than science, a NASA official said the next era of space
>exploration
>> will involve missions that last for years rather than weeks and will
>> eventually pave the way for manned probes to the planets.
>> Edward Stone, director of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said he
>foresaw a
>> network of orbiting communications satellites on Mars as well as rovers
>that
>> drive around for miles and construct the robotic outposts.
>>
>> "It's a logical next step," he said Nov. 16. "But it will depend on the
>> development of technology so that we can bring `up there' back here
>through
>> the power of communications."
>>
>> Stone, chief scientist of the Voyager project to the outer planets and
>> director of NASA's lead center for interplanetary probes since 1991, made
>his
>> comments during the Carl Sagan Memorial Lecture at the American
>Astronautical
>> Society's annual meeting.
>>
>> Stone did not mention the recent loss of the $125 million Mars Climate
>> Orbiter, which was managed at his lab, or the NASA investigation report
>that
>> criticized JPL navigators and managers for failing to catch the metric
>error
>> that doomed the craft.
>>
>> The orbiter and the Mars Polar Lander, which is scheduled to arrive at
the
>> Red Planet on Dec. 3, are part of the space agency's plan to send smaller
>> spacecraft into space more often and at less cost than in the past.
>>
>> Rather than dwell on tight budgets, Stone suggested that the "faster,
>better,
>> cheaper" mantra espoused by NASA Administrator Daniel Goldin is actually
>the
>> natural course of space exploration.
>>
>> The first probes launched to other planets in the 1960s proved the
>> technology, he said. The second-era spacecraft, which were launched in
the
>> 1970s and 1980s, were loaded with expensive instruments that were well
>suited
>> for global studies of the planets.
>>
>> But the billions of dollars spent on massive probes like the Viking
>landers
>> on Mars as well as Voyager and Cassini to the outer planets were worth
the
>> cost, he said.
>>
>> "This era of going once a decade with these large comprehensive missions
>has
>> given us enough information so that we are now smart enough to ask the
>most
>> important questions," Stone said.
>>
>> The $165 million Mars Polar Lander is part of the third generation of
>> spacecraft: It has a limited science agenda of searching for water and
>> studying the atmosphere â€" answering questions raised by the big probes
>and
>> proving technology for the next era.
>>
>> A more in-depth understanding of other planets, including whether life
was
>> ever present, will require robotic outposts over a period of years rather
>> than the current 30 to 60 days, he said.
>>
>> Such missions will use existing energy sources on the planets rather than
>> importing fuel from Earth. A fleet of communications satellites will
>provide
>> nearly constant contact with home. And onboard instruments will drill
deep
>> into the planet, unlike the literal scratching of the surface by today's
>> probes.
>>
>> Stone, who did not make cost or time estimates, also predicted rovers
will
>> explore the surface of other planets. Unlike Sojourner aboard Mars
>> Pathfinder, future vehicles will be able to cross much greater distances,
>he
>> said.
>>
>> Sagan, who popularized space science in books and television before his
>death
>> in 1996, said the greatest benefit of exploration is that it helps people
>> understand their place in the universe.
>>
>> "Perspective is the most fundamental return of what we get from
>exploration,"
>> Stone said. "Although we have just begun the third era of exploration, we
>> nevertheless have to have a large view of the future so that we can be
>> prepared and shape that future."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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