-Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 1/7/00 1:22:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >consensus would be nice too.
>
>  It would be nice, but generally consensus is 'messy'  thing. The best books
>  that look in to the calculatable future-imho-are Generations and the Fourth
>  Turning. They give an understanding of our social history.
>
>  We are entering a period of flux  where the people and our republic can
>  reassert itself. The stench of the corruption is beginning to be understood
>  by a large enough percentage of the population for change to occur.  As the
>  shakedown of the unsettlement of people's pysche by their awareness of the
>  conspiracy—for there is a distinct effect that the awareness of the
>  conspiracy puts a person through. There is denial, there can be wholesale
>  acceptance or variant degress of understanding of our situation. For many a
>  conspiracy believer is some nut ranting about "precious bodily fluids,"
etc.
>  This image is not by chance.  And who wants to be one of "those." But as I
> am
>  sure most of you folks know, that if a person truly takes just a little
time
>  and looks into conspiracy literature that there is much more. I mean who
can
>  ever forget when you as a layperson economist found out that the Fderal
>  Reserve wasn't part of the US Federal government? Did you believe it? Did
> you
>  understand what that meant? Just like you had to go through a learning
>  process, so will our republic. It we shall hope be long-lasting lesson. Be
>  prepared for a a crisis and resolution 2004-2008. Time is on our republic's
>  side.
>  MHO
>  Om
>  K
>

Kris is ever the optimist when it comes to our potential as people to finally
wake up and smell the coffee.  I do not feel the same way, even though I hope
that he proves right in the end.  There are important things afoot and we all
need to be aware of them.  The issues that are discussed here hit upon a
variety of subjects, some of which are quite polarizing and distracting.
Kris is right to assert that there is a perception of what "Conspiracy
Theorist", or "Conspiracy Researcher" means and it involves a lot of wacko
theories as well as a good dose of right wing-ism and Christian
Fundamentalism.  The issues that typically cause the most disruption here are
ones involving dogmatic belief systems, such as religion and faith.  That is
understandable.  What Kris does here as the owner of this list is allow as
free a hand as he can to allow these views to be talked about.  Sometimes it
opens up animosity and bad feelings between people.  These things are
unavoidable.  What should be the goal, much before it spreads to make itself
known in the wider world is for us all on this list to do as the subject line
of this e-mail states, and that is to lighten up.  Secondly to be open to
hearing other views and willing to embrace new ideas that have value and
worth.  We should not be seeking to convert or to thrust our views down the
throats of others, especially here in this forum.  We are about ideas and
about opening minds to new thoughts, and to looking with open eyes at older
ideas that have been shaped into something new.
    We should all be about our business here in such a way that we can each,
without rancor express our views and hopefully we can all gain something from
the exchange.  We exchange information and as such we are a community of like
minded individuals who should be building up a base of information which
would hopefully lead to further good changes in our lives and "real life"
communities.
    This is what I envision here.  I would like to think that Kris is right
that things will change because people will wake up at some point and stop
the slide that this country has headed into, but I am not optimistic,
especially when I see the people here, who should be a little more informed
as to behind the scenes manipulation and hidden goals of the elites who
control (or try to control) it all, being divisive and counterproductive.  I
personally think that it will take much more bad news before anyone decides
it is time to wake up and do something.  People talk too much about what
should be done and they talk and talk and talk, but they never actually do
anything.  They are too lazy, or too absorbed in their own lives, or too
embroiled in their own belief systems, to step out of the mold and the cage
that they occupy to actually take a stand.
    Would that we all on this list at least could appreciate the efforts that
are being made by those of us here who try to open the eyes of our fellow
travellers to hidden things.  Would that all that is hidden be made manifest
and reveal the true state of affairs for us all, now and in the future.  We
should not be about trying to force a view or to demand the acceptance of a
position that we hold dear, but we should not be afraid to discuss those
things forthrightly and accept the challenges that come with aplomb and not
get too riled up about it, especially when it comes to beliefs and faith.
    Anyway, thats my 2 cents worth, if anybody cares. . .

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  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
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  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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