-Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"> </A> -Cui Bono?- Except for Windows NT, you have described a result very similar to mine with the Norton Antivirus program. Steve Wingate wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"> > </A> -Cui Bono?- > > Definitely!!! I would highly recommend against using Norton Antivirus > especially if you are using Windows NT. It really messed up my computer. > Had to completely reinstall the operating system. I consulted the Norton > web page and followed their directions for uninstalling, but the problem > continued. I checked back a few weeks later, and the entire customer forum > (that contained a discussion of this problem) was removed. > > Naturally! Not good for business. > > Norton sucks! I use Network Associates products and have had not > problems since. > > Steve > > On 10 Feb 00, at 4:25, Dave wrote: > > > -Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"> > > </A> -Cui Bono?- > > > > Regarding the posts farther below on FBI, hacking, security, etc... > > > > I recommend that no one use Norton products - I've seen much more difficulty > > CREATED with them than solved. Probably at least 10 tech support calls in > > the past year where the customer "installed Norton tools" and started having > > problems ... solution: remove Norton stuff; problem gone. > > > > My computer sits behind a firewall / proxy server, prob'ly this is the > > reason for the relatively "safe" report below. Even so, it'd be silly to > > think that anything on computer is "secure." > > Store all sensitive information on removeable media; make off-site copies. > > I've also heard from several sources that Macs are considerably less > > susceptible to "break-ins" ... but what a sacrifice... ;) > > > > (report from http://www.grc.com on my main computer ) > > > > ************************ > > Shields UP! is checking YOUR computer's Internet > > connection security . . . currently located at IP: > > > > 208.133.46.39 > > > > Please Stand By. . . > > > > > > Attempting connection to your computer. . . > > Shields UP! is now attempting to contact the Hidden Internet Server within > > your PC. It is likely that no one has told you that your own personal > > computer may now be functioning as an Internet Server with neither your > > knowledge nor your permission. And that it may be serving up all or many of > > your personal files for reading, writing, modification and even deletion by > > anyone, anywhere, on the Internet! > > Please Note: On highly secure systems this may take up to one minute. . . > > Your Internet port 139 does not appear to exist! > > One or more ports on this system are operating in FULL STEALTH MODE! > > Standard Internet behavior requires port connection attempts to be answered > > with a success or refusal response. Therefore, only an attempt to connect to > > a nonexistent computer results in no response of either kind. But YOUR > > computer has DELIBERATELY CHOSEN NOT TO RESPOND (that's very cool!) which > > represents advanced computer and port stealthing capabilities. A machine > > configured in this fashion is well hardened to Internet NetBIOS attack and > > intrusion. > > Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer. > > All attempts to get any information from your computer have FAILED. (This is > > very uncommon for a Windows networking-based PC.) Relative to > > vulnerabilities from Windows networking, this computer appears to be VERY > > SECURE since it is NOT exposing ANY of its internal NetBIOS networking > > protocol over the Internet. > > ************************* > > > > > > Dave Hartley > > http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dana Redding > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 3:26 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [ncndiscuss] Fwd: Is your computer being used remotely by > > hackers? > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Personally when I heard this story, the thought did cross my > > mind that those FBI goons are at it again trying to make a use > > for themselves--now they are hacking computers, geez.. > > > > Dana > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: Wes Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [MC] Is your computer being used remotely by hackers? > > > > Is your computer being used by hackers remotely to implement the current > > distributed denial-of-service attack that has paralyzed several large Web > > sites? Would you know if it were? (Probably not.) > > > > Go to www.grc.com and run the Shields Up test to find out how open your > > computer is to the world. You may be amazed (I was). > > > > To be safe from having your privacy violated or your computer being used in > > such attacks (and thus vulnerable to an FBI investigation), you should > > install a personal firewall on your computer. Some free products are listed > > on > > grc.com. > > I recommend Norton Internet Security 2000 (not free), which includes Norton > > Antivirus. > > > > Janet Reno advised the public on CNN in a press conference today to download > > protection software from the FBI site > > http://www.fbi.gov/nipc/trinoo.htm > > > > (Reno apparently isn't aware the software is for computer network owners and > > organizations, not individual users). > > > > Reno also revealed that "just this week" the FBI made "a $37 million > > request to address cyberattacks." What a coincidence. 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