-Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"> </A> -Cui Bono?- ------- Forwarded message follows ------- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Wes Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MC] Clinton-Gore's covert plan to control the Net? Date sent: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:06:00 -0800 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The following article published on Thursday Feb. 10 raises the question: are the feds behind the current storm of denial-of-service attacks? On Friday Feb. 11, Clinton announced plans (http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,34288,00.html) to hold a White House summit on Tuesday (watch for a possible new Big Brother policy to monitor and control the Net) and Yahoo statements (http://www.internetnews.com) suggest some of the denial of service attacks on Web sites over the past week may have come from sophisticated attackers with knowledge of each site's network--not teenage hackers, as stated by the FBI. (A forward from the Hacktivism list follows this article.) >From Wired News http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,34285,00.html The Butler Hacked It! by Leander Kahney 3:28 a.m. 10.Feb.2000 PST After all the finger-pointing at hackers following this week's Web site attacks, the hackers are doing some finger pointing of their own. And most of them are pointing at the U.S. government. It proves, once again, that the Internet is fertile breeding ground for all kinds of conspiracy theories. And when the subject is the Web itself, it's a veritable conspiracy population explosion. In a widely circulated post to an email list, civil rights advocate Jim Warren floated the theory that the Clinton administration staged the attacks to bolster proposals to greatly expand government powers of surveillance. "What better way to 'prove' the need for massively expanded government surveillance and create a frenzy of support for it?!" wrote Warren. The evidence: Clinton designated electronic "law enforcement" a top priority and allocated $240 million for wiretapping purposes in his budget this month. Days later, the National Security Agency's main spy computers experienced "inexplicable" crashes, followed by attempts to cripple Internet commerce with attacks on key Web sites by hackers unknown. Warren also cited massive phone service disruptions in the Midwest this week and glitches experienced by Concentric Networks' otherwise "very reliable mail-server." "Suddenly, crackers seem to have become far better than any have ever been before. But then again -- what organization has the best computer and phone-system crackers in the world?! There is No Such Agency," Warren wrote, alluding to National Security Agency. Interviewed on Thursday, Warren said, "It's a disturbing coincidence that immediately after the Clinton administration declares war on cyber-terrorism ... suddenly we have a continuous cascade of denial-of-service attacks on the highest-of-the high on the Internet. "On the one hand it's ridiculous to think the NSA, or the Clinton administration, or the FBI would pull something like this. On the other, it's insane to think Nixon would organize a break-in to wiretap his political opponents." Anyone looking for further evidence that the men in black were involved in the Web site attacks can read a CNN article published Wednesday. According to the article, which is now making the rounds in conspiracy circles, the FBI contacted ZDNet before it was hit by any denial-of-service attacks. "ZDNet confirmed to CNN that the FBI contacted the company before it knew it was being hit and has begun to investigate," is the quote most often included in emails submitted to Wired News' tips hotline. Unfortunately, most of the emails neglect to include the preceding sentence, which suggests the FBI was proactively contacting major sites before they were crippled by an attack. The rash of emails also included several from panicky Web surfers suddenly unable to access their favorite sites -- regardless of how obscure they were -- fearing that they, too, were victims of dastardly denial-of-service attacks. More than likely, they were just typical, everyday slowdowns on the "World Wide Wait." Meanwhile, the long-time hacker periodical 2600 suggests the attacks were engineered by "corporate America" to justify a hacker crackdown. "After all, who would be better served by a further denigration of the hacker image with more restrictions on individual liberties?" asked an unsigned editorial. Other potential culprits include the likes of Senator Orrin Hatch; a Zionist/Freemason conspiracy; and the CIA. [END OF WIRED NEWS STORY] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forwarded: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 03:25:26 -0800 (PST) From: ZoeScanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Denial of Service Attacks & the Nets Bingo,Josh.....they don't. Not truth anyway. The NSA has been whining a lot lately about needing money... thats about it. The War for the Web takes a much more serious turn lately......... here are some news stories I used to back up my thoughts on the matter of the "Mass HackAttack"!!! the results are pouring in.......... First,we have the prez with his *demands..... http://chkpt.zdnet.com/chkpt/zdnnsec/www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586, 2436551,00.html Then....the backslapping & praise....hmmmm. http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/02/09/cyber.attacks.02/ other points of interest http://www.pcweek.com/a/pcwh200002102/2435899/ http://www.pcweek.com/b/pcwh200002108/2435465/ And....here is another reasone to consider for this.....er...rash of hackattacks. Methinks perhaps it may be THE reasone. Ever see a lawyer NOT take advantage of a situation? Or insurance co.? http://chkpt.zdnet.com/chkpt/zdnnsec/www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586, 2436984,00.html hehe (I was told once that we were the last line of defense here on the web...the Only line of defense,actually...and now, the battle is heating up extremely! My machine was hassled ALL night last night...knock knock.knock.ping ping ping...nobody home..haha!......not compromised,thanks to me new prog...but it was VERY unnerving..& only a matter of time, I know... "they" are after us like ugly on a monkey.. go ahead...grab my machine...do ya Really think I would KEEP anything on it?duh.) the following is what I posted on a ZDNet billboard chat about this issue...there was little being said in any reasonable context...just mass hysteria seemed to be forming... So...I could not resist...: Just my 2 cents... ***************** Ya know....the *usual* MO of "hackers" is to first declare war on their targets,telling them Why it will be done.Then a follow up taking responsibility for the action against the.. er "victim",etc.& it's Usually done in retaliation for some bullying or questionable activities done by the "Victim/Site" to the public. Something "hackers" perceive as an injustice to all. BUT. This is not the case here. Another factor...yahoo!!!???. What "hacker"/"activist" in their right mind would even Want to bring down Yahoo? Not much Business dealings there,mainly it's a Damn good source of info for all! so,Why hurt Yahoo???..Then...there are mutterings about how it might be just 1one1 "hacker" working alone... ?...LOL!... Not very likely. It would be pretty darn miraculous for 1one1 alone to do THIS job.(Not impossible,but incredible..) I for one,would want to shake his hand. Arg! Lets review the* known *facts here... the "coincidence" that these "attacks" occurred IMMediately after a ISP provider meeting. 1One1 topic of the meeting was about this ...ahh.. type of security problem...Next fact...The fbi has been whining about insecure security and lack of enough funds to do anything about it?...then..Notice how the "hackattack" happens(another coincidence?) on the heels of the Prez himself making noises about needing more n better security (& money to create it) ASAP. ....to no avail... No 1one1 was really very interested in seriously committing to it at all. Too costly...not urgent enough..too radical a plan....Then! this sudden & senseless rash of "hack attacks" happens...... Now,lets look at the results. (Odd batch of reactions here)...The said "victims" are not making a big fuss...?... And..no 1one1 is claiming responsibility....?.There isn't much usual reaction,now is there? Nobody is claiming any major losses either!....or even showing much distress. Ok.....hmmmm.....Making light of "mass hack attacks" Or even just 1one1 lone "hacker" has NOT been standard practice...until now. ? And then ...we have the * lawyers.....and Insurance Firms (big shocker there,huh?) jumping on the bandwagon with..."hackattack" insurance...!... (Packages done up already??? )*(Another big hmmmm)..... It all sounds too fishy to me. Again today there were headlines blaring all over the place about how whom ever did it was "very very good...Talented..it was a thorough job, blah blah blah,etc"...((sounds like a lot of back slapping & self congratulating going on to me.))... Is it not totally Uncharacteristic for the "victims" to lavish such praise on the "Hackattacker/s"....?....Of course..the *press always jumps to the conclusion that everything negative happening on the web MUST be the work of the dreaded "hackers." & it's Always supposed to be*Teenage hackers to boot!...LOL!... Rubbish!... Truth be told,the worst crimes done are by disgruntled employees....hands down. Egad!...what better way to get the funding and support they (Military,Gov,BB & their known fleet of cyber warriors) want than to terrorize the public...with repeated,intense ( & senseless) attacks? The Prez already openly declared they were building a fleet,..flock,er..gaggle,pride,swarm,herd...(whatever) of their own " Elite Hackers"...to use for "Cyberwarfare" on other countries, yada yada yada,etc.Supposedly,in the interests of National Security?.... even publicly announced it a While ago. Do you not think they would go after *real "hackers"? for target practice? Or to use as Scape Goatz??? (sigh)...The DoS prog. & it's many variants has been available online to ANY1one1 for a long time........No...methinks this is all just a ruse... FEDs killing 2-3 birds with 1 stone. Hoping to Scare the public into letting them have their programs(freedom , privacy be damned for us ALL) AND...let the "hackers" take the blame. Nice & tidy...nothing new there,believe me. We have been a major pain in their backside too long. Sadly,the likely end result will be the Net....under Martial Law. Everybody's PC will be invaded..."they" will know every move we make online. IF "they" don't already... Remember the infamous "Back Door" in Windows? Built right in By Micro$oft,(NOT "hackers"),Exclusively for Gov Access? How many of YOU actually took that serious enough to get it patched??...not many, I wager...Most of JQPublic are already violated and don't even know it... For certain, 1One1 thing about all this is True...Security IS in *desperate* need of improvement.. I doubt anyone can dispute that....but not the way "they" want to do it. Wait and see...If "they" win...we ALL loose. THAT is the message "hackers" have been trying and trying (& trying) to get across to everybody. Remember this..ANY fool with a keyboard and half a brain can access/violate someone else's PC, server,site/s...just as a robber can sneak into a house,store,factory...but only a *true criminal will actually TAKE anything.(reading the stuff not included)And they Don't wake you up to Tell you they broke in,now DO they? No. Real criminals do not. People,..."hackers" could *Not Care Less* WHAT JQPublics' precious *numbers are...or where JQpub.travels in cyberspace... *True hackers care only that you/we are vulnerable to the true criminals that can & will use this info against you/us. ( And these "criminals" come in Many forms...)Nor do true"hackers" keep files on you. That is more *right there* than can be said for Gov OR Big Business. "They" DO keep files....and abuse you with them. Do not "hackers" rant on-n -on about how easy it was to "breach the security"???" why?" you may ask?...to let ya know *It Needs Fixing!* IF " hackers" only wanted to snoop & "take" your stuff,then WHY tell you about it? Come on now.... Let Reasoning rule! 1One1 more fact: The prog DoS is for protests!...How can there Be a "protest" if *no 1one1 says What they are Protesting? Or why??? Naw...all these...nonsense attacks,& uncommon praise for the finesse of the *mysterious *attacks stinks to high heavens...of FED. ((They love to pat themselves on the back and brag whenever they actually DO pull something off))....Notice whenever a "hacker/s" IS really responsible how "they" scream bloody murder? Coming down on him/them like the wrath of God? and don't they rant on-n-on about their gigantic losses? The cost soars into the millions or billions? Have ya ever heard them "Praise" the hackers talents? Or claim to understand why it was done in the first place? Har!...Ha!.....LOL!........Hmmmmmmm....... No...this does NOT look good. Not good AT ALL. Peace ZoeScanner --- Joshua Hirsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [: hacktivism :] > > But one thing that still sticks out in the > back of mind is the fact of > the NSA _publicly_ saying that their machines > have been crashing. 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