I am new to this political stuff, yet I know a lot but may certainly may not
be next to you guys.  All I know, is that every president we have had, was
in the Illuminati and Bush is going to win and another Illuminati member.
Gore and Clinton one too. There never was any good presidents for us and if
there were any great leaders, down they fell.   I do not agree with the New
World order stuff.  This country is going to shitz because of our government
polluted with Illuminati, Mason's.. Skull and Bones etc.   It has and will
always be our leaders.


Birds
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse


> Pardon me for me inserting my two bits of opinion
> on an american election from a non-american stand point.
>
> I really don't think it matters who gets voted in. The end result will be
> the same
> although one president might make it more expedient than the other. The
end
> result WILL BE
> the same.
>
>
> ...now to digress
>
> I realize that there are Christians, theists of various beliefs and
atheists
> on this list.
> I mean to offend nobody. However, I simply cannot seem to escape the fact
> that so
> much of circumstance around us in the world today regarding a new world
> order
> (more aptly termed one world governance) seems to mirror biblical prophesy
> in the book of revelations.
>
> I keep reading posts to the effect of "fight and save America while we
still
> can".
> Look people, that's NOT gonna happen. Not in your lifetime nor mine.
> I suppose one could even say it's preordained or prophesied. I am sorry
> to rain on your 4th of July parade, but there will be no saving of America
> no matter how many guns you have stashed.
>
> God's word will prevail.
>
> Mike Smith <><
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alamaine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 2:35 PM
> Subject: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
>
>
> > From
> > http://www.newsmax.com/commentmax/articles/Diane_Alden.shtml
> >
> > }}>Begin
> > CommentMax
> > Republicans Are Bad, but Democrats Are Worse
> > Diane Alden
> > August 4, 2000
> >
> > The reason I will vote for Republicans this fall is because the
> alternative is
> > not only worse, it is dangerous. Perhaps that is not a principled Stand,
> but it
> > is the best I can do. Since the country cannot survive four years of Al
> Gore
> > and the consequences he would bring down on American heads with his
> statist-
> > collectivist agenda, there is not much choice. You can vote for Ralph
> Nader or
> > Pat Buchanan or Harry Browne, but realistically none of them has a
chance.
> >
> > If Al Gore were elected because of a split vote, the divisiveness of
> extreme
> > leftist-collectivist Big Brotherism would kill America. This country is
so
> > polarized now that it will take a gifted leader or leaders to put it
back
> > together again.
> >
> > There is no doubt in my mind that if Gore gets in and the Democrats take
> over
> > one or both houses of Congress, the Republic, what is left of it, will
be
> > finished. We are not talking partisan, Democrat versus Republican, here;
> we are
> > talking about the fate of the Republic. Unfortunately, the fascist left
> now
> > controls the once great and good Democratic Party.
> >
> > Oh, life will go on in the United States, but there will come a day when
> we
> > will wake up and we will not have the country where liberty lives. The
> Bill of
> > Rights for all intents and purposes will cease to exist. We will no
longer
> be a
> > Republic; we will be a mob-ocracy with benevolent dictators at the helm
> and an
> > emasculated and frightened opposition incapable of preventing the worst
> abuses
> > in the growing trend toward a corporate police state.
> >
> > If Bush is elected and the Republicans keep both houses of Congress,
> perhaps we
> > will have breathing room to develop a long-term answer to the growth of
> the
> > state and its abuse of power. His election will only give us breathing
> room -
> > that is all it will do.
> >
> > What is worrisome is the talk from the Bush-Cheney camp that in a future
> Bush
> > administration the Republicans will reach across the aisle to the
> Democrats. A
> > bipartisan group hug will be in order to do the people's business.
> >
> > The people's business, however, requires only one thing - for government
> to get
> > out of the way and to re-establish the Bill of Rights and the
Constitution
> as
> > the law of the land. The Republicans don't need to reach across the
aisle.
> They
> > have been there and done that and compromised every single principle
they
> stood
> > for. They fail to realize that the Democrats fight a war in which there
is
> no
> > compromise. The sole option they offer is total agreement to growing
> government
> > and restraining or ending liberty.
> >
> > The only reaching across the aisle Republicans need to do is to yank the
> rug
> > out from under the statist Democrats and their Republican fellow
> travelers.
> > One must ask the question, what could possibly make any self-respecting,
> > conservative Republican become so totally obsessed with power, image or
> the
> > shallow approval of the media or the left that it sells its conservative
> soul.
> >
> > Politicians on the left do not care about conservative concerns, nor do
> they
> > intend to compromise on any issue. They understand that it is an
> ideological
> > war they are fighting, and its only conclusion is the obliteration and
> > unconditional surrender of the other side. They are good at it. The last
> couple
> > of years in Congress, Democrats - along with the Clinton
administration -
> have
> > shown they are good at winning political warfare. Their agenda, with few
> > exceptions, has been passed and funded.
> >
> > Yet the Republicans still haven't figured out this is a war, and they
> scratch
> > their heads hoping no one will notice and criticize them for not being
> quick
> > enough with the rubber stamp. The Republicans need to get a grip.
American
> > doesn't need more bipartisanship. It is nothing more than appeasement of
a
> > statist philosophy and its advocates, a philosophy that would destroy
> anyone or
> > anything in order to accomplish its goals.
> >
> > On the other hand, Republicans have not been true to their stated goals,
> and it
> > is no wonder many conservatives are disheartened. Over the top, you say?
> Well,
> > let's look at the facts.
> >
> > According to the Cato Institute, the 106th Congress is going to be the
> biggest-
> > spending Congress on domestic social programs since Jimmy Carter. Total
> federal
> > non-defense spending is going to grow in real terms by $33 billion, or
11
> > percent, between 1999 and 2001. Cato maintains that more than 200
programs
> and
> > departments the Republicans pledged to eliminate in 1995, like the
> National
> > Endowment for the Arts and the Department of Education, now have fatter
bu
> dgets
> > than ever. Congress has violated its own spending caps every year.
> >
> > But it isn't only fiscal irresponsibility that the Republicans have been
> guilty
> > of or compromised on. For instance, the giant surpluses should have been
> given
> > back to the taxpayers. But instead they are being used by the Clinton
> > administration and the Democrats to fund more black holes called
> government
> > programs.
> >
> > By and large these programs do nothing to help those for whom they are
> > intended. Rather, they fund the paper shufflers that welfare programs
> firmly
> > ensconced in high-paying, big-benefits government jobs.
> >
> > From Head Start to the Department of Energy and the EPA, failure is
> failure and
> > in the real world would not be tolerated. Yet failed programs and
> departments
> > continue, and Republicans have done next to nothing about it.
> >
> > Again, spending and bureaucratic power continue unchecked. Weren't
> Republicans
> > supposed to foil stupid programs that the Democrats try to keep and
> prevent new
> > ones they would inflict on Americans?
> >
> > Aren't Republicans supposed to be the guard dogs for the Bill of Rights
> and
> > Constitution?
> >
> > Weren't Republicans elected to prevent or curtail corruption in
government
> and
> > prevent police state tactics being used against citizens? The Republican
> Party,
> > however, has done little but speak loudly and carry an ineffective twig,
> > saying, "Naughty, naughty, but we aren't at fault; government is only
> guilty of
> > bad judgment."
> >
> > Shouldn't Republicans on the Judiciary Committees have stopped the
> hundreds of
> > agenda-driven left-wingers from becoming a majority in the court system?
> Thanks
> > to Republicans like Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, the real Clinton legacy
> will
> > be the profoundly left-wing and statist judiciary.
> >
> > No matter who is president for the next eight years or what kind of
> Congress is
> > elected, the judiciary will be loaded with Clinton appointees. These
> leftists
> > will continue to erode the rule of law and the Constitution.
> >
> > Republicans and Impeachment
> >
> > The Republican majority in the House and Senate could not fulfill
> impeachment
> > strictures and convict the most corrupt president in our nation's
history.
> > Therefore, it should come as no surprise that a Republican "moderate"
like
> > Chris Shays of Connecticut recently revealed that he had seen evidence
> during
> > the impeachment that indicated Juanita Broaddrick had been brutally
raped
> not
> > once but twice by Bill Clinton. Nevertheless, Shays voted not to
impeach.
> >
> > Chris Shays is considered by the New York Times to be a "reasonable"
> Republican
> > - which is left-speak for Republicans who go along with most of the
> leftist
> > horrors that Democrats propose. Chris Shays is notorious for giving away
> land
> > and proposing environmental solutions that are nothing but giveaways of
> the
> > territory of other states. He does this without any concern for the
Ninth
> and
> > 10th Amendments or the sovereignty of those states. But his Connecticut
> yuppie
> > constituency includes the brilliant political and economic philosopher
> Paul (I
> > never saw a government program I didn't like) Newman. Most likely his
> > constituents know more about the contents of a Ralph Lauren or an L.L.
> Bean
> > catalogue than the Bill of Rights and its intent.
> >
> > Former chief counsel to the House Judiciary Committee for impeachment,
> David
> > Schippers, indicates in his upcoming book "Sell Out": "Fighting vicious
> Chicago
> > mobsters was nothing compared to dealing with certain members of
> Congress!"
> > Schippers took notes and has the names of members of both parties who
> ignored
> > evidence and betrayed the impeachment process. He says, "I had no
inkling
> of
> > the extent of Bill Clinton's guilt - until I saw the mountains of yet-
> > unreleased evidence."
> >
> > Schippers will name Republican names as well as Democrats, men and women
> who
> > allowed the rule of law and the Constitution to be trampled on. What
will
> come
> > to light is just how complicit Republicans are in the irreparable damage
> done
> > to the rule of law.
> >
> > Power of the Purse
> >
> > The Republican Congress had every opportunity to unfund the overzealous
> police
> > agencies such as the FBI, but they didn't. Investigations and hearings
on
> > alphabet agency corruption led to no net decrease in agency budgets.
> >
> > These agencies allowed themselves to be used by an administration that
> nearly
> > destroyed a good and decent federal employee during the Travelgate
affair.
> From
> > Billy Dale to the late Cardinal John O'Connor, the premier police agency
> of the
> > United States has been compromised, and it is doubtful that this police
> agency,
> > as well as others, can be trusted to abide by the Constitution and its
> > guarantees.
> >
> > Yet while this corruption was going on, where was congressional help to
> keep
> > these agencies honest? Where was the full-blooded effort to help
> whistleblowers
> > and maintain proper oversight so that the Clinton administration would
not
> have
> > free rein? This administration that uses the power of the executive to
> bully
> > and intimidate the FBI and the IRS into abusive actions against American
> > citizens.
> >
> > Add the recent whitewash of the Waco tragedy by former Republican
Senator
> > Danforth of Missouri, and we have a confirmation that justice is not a
> great
> > concern to some Republicans. Nor is there any indication that in the
> future
> > they will rein in the federal agencies guilty of unconstitutional abuse
of
> > power. We may expect government abuse for decades to come.
> >
> > It is a pretty good bet that another Waco can and will happen again.
> Danforth
> > made that possibility more likely by finding no fault with government
> actions
> > in Waco. He merely implied that the government used "bad judgment" as
> agency
> > actions resulted in the fiery conclusion to the 51-day standoff. In any
> case,
> > in the real world such bad judgment can get you thrown in jail.
Apparently
> > there is little hope that federal agencies will ever be held accountable
> no
> > matter who is in office. The final accounting will belong to history.
> >
> > Making Bad Laws Results in Worse Policy
> >
> > Republicans are also partially responsible for such bad laws as the
CALEA
> > (Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act), which gave law
> enforcement
> > the power to do extensive electronic eavesdropping by requiring the
> various
> > phone companies to make it easier for government to listen in on private
> > conversations. This law tears at the fabric of liberty and negates the
> meaning
> > of the Fourth Amendment. Add it to the list of other invasions of
privacy,
> and
> > Republicans who do not want to appear soft on crime will contribute to
> making
> > criminals of us all.
> >
> > Now we find the FBI has another eavesdropping system called "Carnivore"
> that
> > has the capability of snooping into everyone's e-mail. There is
> congressional
> > flurry over Carnivore, but whether anything will be done about it
remains
> to be
> > seen. Where was congressional oversight while all this was going on?
> Perhaps
> > Congress was too busy passing expensive and unneeded legislation to
notice
> > Carnivore.
> >
> > The recent Hatch and Feinstein drug bill will compound the first mistake
> with
> > CALEA by allowing searches of computers without warrants and without the
> > subject of the search having to be told about it till later. The
> > Hatch/Feinstein Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act of 1999 will add
> greater
> > intrusive capability for the federal police agencies as well as deny
> certain
> > free speech rights even as they continue to look for enemies of the
> American
> > state. The failed war on drugs is the excuse, but the result is
heightened
> and
> > more powerful Big Brother for everyone. Yes, Orrin Hatch brags about how
> well
> > he reaches across the aisle to work with Democrats.
> >
> > Then there is good Republican soldier Dan Burton. He holds hearings on
> campaign
> > finance corruption in the Clinton administration even while threatened
> with
> > retribution from the Reno Justice Department. Burton tells them to bring
> it on.
> > As much as he may wish otherwise, don't hold your breath that anything
> will
> > come out of the Burton hearings. Just as nothing came out of the
Thompson
> > hearings or any other Republican attempts at uncovering and seeking
> justice in
> > regard to the Clinton administration.
> >
> > If Bush is elected, there may be a quiet clean-up of the various
> departments,
> > including Justice, but Clinton and his henchmen will still skate off
into
> the
> > sunset to bash Bush and whatever changes Republicans attempt to
> accomplish.
> > Republicans could have done a great deal to help all Americans by
getting
> rid
> > of the IRS. They had endless hearings that uncovered case after case of
> IRS
> > brutality and bullying, but in the end nothing much has changed. The IRS
> is
> > still being used by the Clinton administration to go after perceived
> enemies.
> > The Republicans continue to be ineffectual at preventing this
persecution.
> All
> > too often, even with new laws, citizens are forced to spend copious
> amounts of
> > money on legal defense, not to mention the mental harassment and the
loss
> of
> > respect for the entire tax system.
> >
> > What ever happened to the Republican promise to dismantle the IRS? The
> party of
> > Lincoln mouths nonsense about how the American people aren't ready for
> that.
> > That is baloney and BS. Actually, it is leftist Democrats, the power
> hungry in
> > government, plus the media, who aren't ready for it.
> >
> > Clinton has used the IRS against his enemies far more than any other
> occupant
> > of the White House. From the Western Journalism Center to Paula Jones to
> > Juanita Broaddrick, Bill O'Reilly of Fox News, and the Heritage
> Foundation, and
> > it has removed the tax-exempt status of the Christian Coalition. Yet
> quasi-
> > religious environmental groups and the labor unions continue to give
money
> to
> > leftist political candidates without bringing on IRS investigations.
This,
> > while environmental groups accept government grants and handouts to pay
> for
> > lawsuits against private property owners and legitimate business. The
> > Republicans could solve this problem by getting rid of the agency and
> creating
> > a national sales tax or a flat tax.
> >
> > Oh, Give Us Land, Lots of Land
> >
> > The Clinton land grabs taking place in various parts of the country
could
> have
> > been stopped. However, six wimpy and scared Republicans joined their
> socialist
> > colleagues in the Democratic Party and failed to pass such measures as
the
> > Nickles Amendment. This would have halted the land-grabbing under the
> > Antiquities Act. With a majority in both houses of Congress, if
> Republicans had
> > the will they would have been able to pass laws that would end the abuse
> of
> > executive orders by any president.
> >
> > Complaints about the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the Forest Service
> and
> > other "green" agencies abound. In some western states, counties have
> declared
> > that such agents no longer have the right to throw their weight around
in
> their
> > counties or carry firearms. With a few exceptions like Helen Chenoweth,
> Jim
> > Hansen, Larry Craig, Scot McInnis, Ben Nighthorse Campbell, Don Nickles,
> and a
> > couple of others, the western state representatives seem more interested
> in
> > being national "statesmen" than protecting the sovereignty of their
states
> and
> > the states' citizens. They get very little relief from their Republican
> > colleagues from the East.
> >
> > When gas prices spiked this summer, the Republicans had a golden
> opportunity to
> > reduce or temporarily roll back taxes, but they didn't. Instead they
> mumbled
> > and bumbled about how that wasn't such a good idea. The Democrats didn't
> have
> > to worry about one less tax inflicted on the public; they could count on
> the
> > other party to carry their water for them.
> >
> > As one draconian law after another has passed, the Republicans cannot
join
> in
> > common cause to defeat them. For some reason many Republicans don't seem
> to
> > care about how dangerously close they are to empowering and aiding the
> creation
> > of a corporate police state.
> >
> > Additionally, Republicans know that many government agencies need to be
> > dismantled. The Department of Education, for instance, is a total waste
of
> > money. But Republicans have been ineffectual in getting that message
out.
> It
> > isn't all the fault of the left-wing media, either. Where are the
> Republican
> > moneybags to generate ad campaigns in order to inform Americans what
> > constitutes truth. Where are the infomercials and documentaries on the
> limits
> > and duties of government? Are Republicans more afraid of what the elite
> > Northeast media will say about them than they are about doing what is
> right for
> > the country, the Constitution, the rule of law and America's children?
> >
> > The current crop of Republicans seem to have great memory loss when it
> comes to
> > understanding that Ronald Reagan did not win the presidency by huge
> margins
> > because he softened his message to suit moderates or the left. He was
> elected
> > twice because he had no doubts about the rightness of his beliefs and
his
> > message. He knew that these beliefs made America a better place and
> enhanced
> > the Constitution and the rule of law. If the Republican Party has core
> beliefs,
> > it is muted by the way it acts. It seems that most Republicans have
> subscribed
> > to the message and modus operandi of the Northeast republicans and the
> > dunderhead losers in the Rockefeller wing of the party.
> >
> > Should the Republicans win in November, the big question asked in
> conservative
> > circles is whether or not there will be eight more years of what appears
> to be
> > not a dime's worth of difference between the parties. Will we continue
> down the
> > road to a corporate police state, Republican style?
> >
> > This Is War
> >
> > A booming economy may continue and it may appear to be party time for
one
> and
> > all, but liberty will be a casualty of the malfeasance of both political
> > parties.
> >
> > Cybertechno-commentator Jon Katz of Slashdot.com made an astute comment
> > recently. He said, "Democracy and freedom aren't about prosperity. You
can
> be
> > poor and quite free. Democracy is about the legitimacy of the
individual,
> whose
> > voice and vote should count for more than any other single interest or
> group."
> > NewsMax's Chris Ruddy also told it like it is: "Democrats understand
> politics
> > is war."
> >
> > The Democrats would have absolutely no hesitation to get their agenda
> passed by
> > any and all tactics, up to and including lying to the American people.
> They
> > have done it time and time again. Pick an issue, and the left demagogues
> it -
> > from Representative John Lewis of Georgia loudly proclaiming that
> Republicans
> > were coming after the poor because of welfare reform, to the Democrats
> scaring
> > old people by saying that the Republicans were going to take away their
> Social
> > Security. Democrats understand this isn't a game, that the stakes aren't
> merely
> > who sits in the White House. What is at stake is the nature of
government
> and
> > the society we will live in through the 21st century.
> >
> > If the Democrats have their way, the United States will give up its
> sovereignty
> > to such bodies as the U.N. and as long as the economy is good no one
will
> care.
> > That is not merely my opinion. Clinton foreign policy guru Strobe Talbot
> has
> > repeated more than once that the days of the nation-state, including the
> United
> > States, are over. So in a Democratic administration count on ever more
> > allegiance to supragovernmental bodies such as the U.N.
> >
> > Under a Gore administration the military will decline more than it
already
> has.
> > Permanently relegated to misdirected experiments in social Engineering,
it
> will
> > degenerate in ranks and in its ability to fight America's battles. The
> purpose
> > of the military is to kill people and break things, not to juggle sexual
> issues
> > to the detriment of readiness.
> >
> > At some point, in the name of "the children" and in defiance of the Bill
> of
> > Rights, guns will be outlawed and eventually confiscated as they have
been
> in
> > Australia. Again, the outcome of the gun issue has been discussed and
> promoted
> > and predicted by every leftist in and out of government. The ultimate
> result
> > will be the end of gun ownership in the U.S. except under the most
> arbitrary
> > and oppressive conditions, which will make the "right to keep and bear
> arms"
> > moot.
> >
> > If the leftist Democrats have their way, hate crimes will include
thought
> > crimes as well. This will include the mutant child of the left,
political
> > correctness, which will suffocate creativity and deny the natural law.
> > Religious organizations and individuals will find themselves breaking
the
> law
> > because of their beliefs. Men and women of the cloth will have to keep
> their
> > religious opinions to themselves or be subject to government
investigation
> and
> > possible criminal penalties. What isn't overt persecution will be subtle
> and
> > offer those with strong beliefs no alternative but to break the law. The
> > government lumps pro-lifers with the murdering, abortion-clinic-bomber
> group,
> > and that is a fact. Otherwise why would it keep files and conduct
> > investigations on even the most benign of pro-life groups? The FBI has
> admitted
> > doing just this.
> >
> > Think the government will leave the religious alone? Under the Democrats
> and
> > the Clinton administration it didn't stop the feds from keeping a
dossier
> on
> > Cardinal O'Connor nor intruding into the private lives of many
> religionists
> > including Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.
> >
> > The Democrats have often stated their belief that the Bill of Rights is
> not
> > relevant to our times. If they have their way, their court appointments
> will
> > make that document as meaningless as plans on how to construct an
> eight-track
> > tape deck.
> >
> > Soccer moms: Get used to it. The environmental movement owns Al Gore and
> the
> > Democrats. Not only will you be faced with higher gas prices, you
> eventually
> > will be driving vehicles that have been pre-approved by the federal
> government.
> > That borders on socialism, but perhaps that is what soccer moms and the
> women
> > who vote for Democrats desire. You also may look forward to paying
higher
> costs
> > for your trips to the national parks. When you are older, you will not
be
> able
> > to use a motorized boat on any lakes in wilderness areas. That has
> happened in
> > northern Minnesota and elsewhere. Prices for all goods including, oil,
> natural
> > gas, timber, and other natural resources are going to go up because we
> have run
> > producers out of business with environmental regulations run amok.
> >
> > Everyone wants clean air and clean water. However, the government and
the
> > environmental movement want it so pure and pristine that life as we know
> it in
> > America today will go the way of the dodo bird.
> >
> > Additionally, rural America might just as well head for the hills or
move
> to
> > town because a vote for a Democrat is a vote for the destruction of
> private
> > property and the end to the rural way of life. That is, unless it
involves
> > conglomerate corporate farms, which funnel money into the DNC.
> >
> > Republicans had better put on the armor of strength and steadfastness.
> Their
> > cause should be nothing less than a return to constitutional government.
> They
> > are the party of less government, fewer taxes and more liberty. They
would
> do
> > well to remember what it is they are about and be proud of it.
> >
> > Republicans used to stand for some wonderful ideals. So did the
Democrats,
> but
> > the party of civil rights has become the party of civil wrongs. The
> tragedy of
> > our times is that the late, great Democratic Party forgot and helped
> destroy
> > the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. They bought into the notion
that
> > growing government is better than growing individual liberty.
> >
> > Perhaps the Republicans will be granted one more chance. If they blow it
> this
> > time, they will become the minority party forever. More Importantly,
their
> > spineless equivocating and trying to be bipartisan and outdo each other
in
> left-
> > wing moderation will cost us what remains of our liberty. Republicans
> don't
> > need to reach across the aisle to left-wingers with a statist agenda.
They
> need
> > to start kicking some left-wing butt - or move out of the way and let
> someone
> > else do it.
> >
> > News to Use - Why Democrats are worse:
> > .
> > Apparently Al Gore's brownshirts are wearing yellow these days.
Incidents
> on
> > the Gore campaign trail illustrate the growing new fascists on the left.
> In
> > Michigan recently, a Mennonite couple and their eight children carried
> pro-life
> > signs at a Gore rally. Gore thugs manhandled and pushed the couple and
the
> > children and confiscated their signs. The 10-year-old daughter was
knocked
> to
> > the ground by one of Gore's yellowshirts. There were several witnesses,
> and a
> > local TV station interviewed them as well as the Mennonite couple.
> >
> > The Michigan occurrence followed on the heels of a similar episode in
> > Wisconsin. In that case burly men wearing yellow shirts manhandled
> peaceful
> > sign carriers protesting Gore's stance on various issues. The campaign's
> > response was "well, they probably weren't in the area designated for
> > protesters." But no apology was ever forthcoming from Gore. So besides
Al
> Gore
> > being a slumlord, he and his people are hypocrites and bullies. While
the
> left
> > seems to prefer yellow rather than brown shirts, the chilling effect on
> free
> > speech is the same.
> >
> > Some liberal pro-democrat Minnesotans (Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party)
are
> going
> > to learn about the cost of leftist programs. Their natural gas prices
are
> going
> > up 30 percent this winter. Thanks, Paul Wellstone and Bruce Vento and
the
> rest
> > of you guys, for all the regulations on the use of clean-burning coal by
> > utility companies. Thanks for always voting for every dippy
environmental
> > regulation and law. Thanks, guys, for funding the EPA to the max without
> > leaving room for common sense. Thanks for bringing the costs for
> > environmentalism home to your any-government-program-is-good DFLer
voters.
> But
> > then, we know the Democrats are for the "working man."
> >
> > Yeah, sure.
> > ------------------------------
> > Diane Alden is a research analyst, writer, historian and political
> economist.
> > She writes columns for NewsMax.com, Etherzone, Enterstageright, American
> > Partisan and many other online publications. She also does occasional
> radio
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> > share in the power and pelf extracted by the rulers from their deluded
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