"Goldwater, who was raised as an Episcopalian, but who had a Jewish father said he was told that, if elected, the first Jewish president would be Episcopalian." - - - -- Interestingly, Barry Goldwater was the son of a Jewish man (his mother was not Jewish), and I never knew it until today ... it did him no good in the 1964 election ... 90% of the Jews voted for Johnson ... but I think the Democrats should be reminded that the Republicans to a significant degree addressed the Jewish candidate issue 26 years before Lieberman was nominated for a lesser office. - - - The Jerusalem Report December 3, 1992 ON THE WINNING SIDE, AT LAST BYLINE: J.J. Goldberg Clinton got more Jewish votes than any presidential candidate since Lyndon Johnson in 1964. But Jews didn't vote for all the Senate candidates their leaders recommended. From Reform rabbis to the usually Republican ultra-Orthodox, Ameri- can Jewish voters were smiling. For once, they had backed a presidential winner: Between 80 and 85 percent voted for Bill Clinton, according to most estimates. But Election Day 1992 had a more subtle message as well. In several senatorial races around the country, Republicans known as friends of Israel ran for reelection, with strong backing from Jewish community leaders and were opposed by liberal Jewish challengers, and rejected by Jewish voters. For pro-Israel lobbyists and Jewish leaders, that was a signal that they may have to worry about their own backing among the American Jewish rank and file, and their influence in the next Congress and administration. The Jewish vote for Clinton was about twice the overall support for the Democrat just 43 percent to Bush's 38 percent in the three-way race with Ross Perot. Bush's share of the Jewish vote was about 10-12 percent, with 5-10 percent going to Ross Perot. Though estimates of Jewish voting patterns can be inaccurate, the lopsided support of Clinton appeared to be the highest Jewish showing for any Democrat since Lyndon Johnson got a sweeping 90 percent in his 1964 landslide over Barry Goldwater. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - - - States News Service May 13, 1985, Monday BYLINE: By Jim Michaels, States News Service DATELINE: WASHINGTON Rep. Morris K. Udall and Sen. Barry Goldwater shed their political differences Monday night and dwelled on their similarities: failed presidential bids, their long Arizona heritage and their dry wit. "I get tired of getting reminded about being beaten by Jimmy Carter," Udall said, referring to his 1976 race against Carter for the Democratic nomination, holding back a smile. "That's not as bad as being beaten by Lyndon Johnson," Goldwater shot back in reference to his 1964 landslide defeat. "Between us we made our state the only state where mothers don't dare tell their children they can grow up to be president," Goldwater said. The two were lightheartedly commiserating at an Arizona State Society gathering, billed as "Reflections on the Grand Canyon State." Goldwater, powerful chairman of the Armed Services Committee, first elected to the Senate in 1952, swapped stories and jousted with Udall, chairman of the Interior Committee, and a veteran of more than twenty years in Washington. The audience was filled with Arizona politicians and their staffs, lobbyists and some former Arizona political vets like former Minority Leader John Rhoades. The two traded jests like partners of a vaudeville routine who had been on the road for years. The show was punctuated every few minutes with frequent outbursts of laughter -- much heartier than the polite guffaws that would be expected from a room full of aides and lobbyists. Udall, who lost an eye in a childhood accident, described himself as a "one-eyed Mormon Democrat." Goldwater, who was raised as an Episcopalian, but who had a Jewish father said he was told that, if elected, the first Jewish president would be Episcopalian. Like old men rocking on the porch with children in rapture at their feet, the two men reminisced about their families' Arizona roots and how they intertwined with the history of the state. Udall spoke of the time his grandfather was in jail for polygamy, a not unheard of practice for Mormons in those days. Goldwater's grandfather came up with the money to bail him out. "My grandfather, the mayor of Prescott, put him on a horse and said get the hell out of town and don't come back," Goldwater added. Goldwater recalled his long shot bid for a Senate seat in 1952 in what was then a heavily Democratic state. "I could never have been elected," he said. "I'd still be selling pants," he said in reference to his family's retail business. 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