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June wrote:

> I find it interesting when debunkers routinely dismiss reports of UFOs,
> even when the reports come from sources that are not only highly
> credible, but ostensibly trained to be objectively observant...

UFOs truly are a mystery.  I have no idea what they are or even if they
exist but it is obviously a phenomena of some sort.  As with any field
of study there are definety lunatics but on the other hand, as you point
out, there are also very credible people who have experienced something
outstanding.   It pays to keep an open mind about things, especially on
a conspiracy list.

And Kris - I know I mentioned it last night, but I love your list and
have been on it for many years, as you know.  But look at the title of
this message.  First, I find Aleshia/Saba a compelling person to read -
I think we all do as so much of the list seems to centre around her
lately.  I don't know what I am trying to say - it is like a huge,
babyish vicious fight and it is really beginning to upset me.  I know I
don't contribute much to your list - I'm not an expert in conspiracy
theory - but I try to contribute articles when they seem appropriate.

It's just that - can people at least try to be nice and friendly?  I'm
sure everyone here has good qualities.  I suppose what I am trying to
say is that I am getting totally sick of gay bashing.

You know what it reminds me of Kris?  Remember when the Christan milita
fundamentals invaded your list and almost destroyed it?  Alex came on
the list then and helped.

I don't mean to sound holier-than-thou, and I don't want to be
judgemental, but I have noticed an alarming deterioration in the quality
of posts.

Aleshia, you should start your own list.  I'm serious.  Go to yahoo and
you can create one in five minutes.  I am sure there are people here who
would sign up for it.  I'm not saying that to be ignorant or mean - it
is just that you do have a voice and a following.

Oh feck - what do I know?

Okay!  Let's go back to sodomy.

Kelly
> I'm thinking particularly of pilots, both civilian and military; seems to
> me the debunkers should be questioning why these witnesses are supposedly
> always mistaking satellites, missiles, the moon, Venus, or swamp gas for
> UFOs.  What does that say about the abilities of those flying civilian
> and military aircraft?
>
> I found it interesting how the reports out of the US base in England in
> the 1980s (I think the base is called Rendlesham or Randlesham?) were
> debunked...this was a base where jets armed with nuclear warheads were
> kept, yet the debunkers insisted that all of the military personnel who
> experience UFO phenonenom over several nights (and there were quite a
> few) all either hallucinated or mistook a light on a lighthouse some
> miles away for a UFO...
>
> If true, then we should all be much more worried about who's taking care
> of our nuclear arsenal than if outerspace aliens are invading...
>
> June
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