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Whoever the "Illuminati" are, they have learned to use that age-old tactic
of "divide and conquer."  This one statement attributed to Springmeier does
resound with a ring of truth.

>>I was in ministry to bring Jehovah's Witnesses to Christ for ten years. I
worked under Witness, Inc.  Our disagreement came when I began to expose the
infiltration in the Christian churches. They were willing to expose the
Watchtower's errors, but they were not willing to expose the errors within
the
Christian churches.  All of us who want to stay true to Christ are finding
it
difficult in this day of apostasy and ecumenicalism.  I on my part separated
in a loving spirit from a group who'd had me for a missionary for ten years.
Before I began exposing the new world order, they had had me as one of their
yearly conference speakers.  My knowledge about the new world order was too
controversial for them, so I went from being respected to being shunned. I
don't expect any sympathy from people like Torell, who love to repeat a
matter
that they know nothing about.<<


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin F. Abernathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, June 10, 2001 11:39 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Fritz Springmeier's Response To His Critics


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>From:  "James Whisler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date:  Sun Jun 10, 2001  9:19 pm
>Subject:  Fw: Defamation of Fritz Springmeier
>
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS/message/16264
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>JOHN S. TORELL DEFAMES FRITZ SPRINGMEIER WITH LIES FROM THE PIT OF HELL.
>
>                                                     Or
>
> An answer to John S. Torell&#8217;s article &#8220;Fritz
Springmeier&#8212;another human tragedy.&#8221;
>By Fritz Springmeier.
>
>      Christ asked us to submit to defamatory statements, yet at times men
of God
>such as Paul had to defend themselves, and set the record straight.
I&#8217;m
>relieved that our time period is not as harsh in its punishments of
libelous
>statements as some. In old Iceland, if a person called someone a coward,
they
>had the right to legally kill their accuser. However the old Norman
approach
>might be fun. The Normans made a false accuser stand in the town center and
>hold his nose and confess, &#8220;I&#8217;m a liar, I&#8217;m a
liar.&#8221;  The Word of God teaches
>that God will eventually judge every idle and malicious word we speak.
Christ
>warned that calling someone a fool could bring God&#8217;s total judgment.
>
>      Recently a slanderous article came out about me by John S. Torell. He
quotes a
>number of scriptures and encourages the readers to reject me. However, if
the
>truth about me is known (and I can certainly prove my case) then the
>scriptures that Torell quotes actually condemn him for spreading pure
>unadulterated slanderous lies. If you are to follow Torell&#8217;s advice
to shun
>someone with bad fruit then you must shun Torell himself, for he has been
the
>perfect example of what he warns us about.
>
>      I wish I could say I was surprised at John S. Torell&#8217;s eighteen
pages of
>slanderous lies but I am not. I am not the first person to be on the
receiving
>end of John Torell. I have only met the man one day of my life, and during
>that entire day he was throwing a temper tantrum like a 3 year old in front
of
>hundreds of people who came to a conference with several speakers. I was
very
>embarrassed that a man who represents himself as a Christian minister would
>throw such a childish temper tantrum because he didn&#8217;t get to speak
in the
>room he wanted.
>
>      Before I give a point-by-point rebuttal to the lies Torell is
spreading, I
>want to hold up the Word of God. I was very pleased that Torell quoted the
>Word of God. The Word of God is a two-edged sword and when Torell quotes 1
Tim
>6:3-6 about men who carry out &#8220;evil surmisings&#8230;perverse
disputing of men of
>corrupt minds and destitute of the truth&#8230;&#8221;  those scriptures
describe Torell
>himself perfectly. Torell quotes a verse about men who &#8220;cause
divisions and
>deceive the hearts of the simple&#8230;&#8221; Again this is exactly what
Torell is doing.
>He calls for us to reject those with pride and have ministers who are
&#8220;not
>being lifted up with pride&#8221;.  I have met many ministers in my life,
and during
>the day I was around Torell, he was obnoxiously full of pride.
>Torell gets his information from Ron Patton, my ex-wife, and probably Kurt
>Billings, and who knows whom else. There is a saying &#8220;garbage in,
garbage
>out.&#8221;  Torell has been fed garbage and because he wanted garbage, he
has
>digested it, and then spewed this garbage out to the rest of the
unsuspecting
>world.
>
>      Torell accuses me of adultery. He brings no witnesses to this. He
brings no
>evidence of this. He just pops off and spews this slander.  While he
accuses
>me of being a lose cannon, Christian ministers should have evidence before
>they begin publicly accusing another Christian, or as far as that goes,
before
>they accuse anyone. Torell is indeed a loose cannon. There is no evidence
of
>his accusation, because it is a lie. In fact, within his own article is
>information that will help you see the lie. Before I began helping Cisco, I
>met with her husband privately and got his permission to work with her.
Later,
>after my wife divorced me, I moved into their house with her
husband&#8217;s prior
>permission. When he died in June, 1999, I moved out. The entire time I was
>with Cisco, I worked with her husband and he never voiced any complaint to
me
>about me. When people accused me of adultery to his face, he refused to
>believe their lies and continued to be my friend.  As he got worse
physically,
>I was one of the people who cared for him, and took him to the doctor.
>
>      Torell claims that I discourage victims of mind-control so that they
give up hope,
>commit suicide or return to their handlers.  There are a number of victims
out
>there who will testify on my behalf. They can testify that I gave them help
as
>best as I could, and never charged them a penny. In fact, besides the
>thousands of hours I have sacrificed trying to help these people, I have
given
>gifts to victims of mind-control. I constantly encouraged Cisco, gave her
>hope, and protected her. The incredible things that I have gone through to
>help victims of mind-control would fill books. I have never intentionally
>discouraged anyone, nor has anyone I worked with ever committed suicide. I
>have seen people who gave me information be killed. Why were they killed?
I
>have seen many attempts on my own life, as well as countless attacks on my
>reputation by people like Torell. Torell has no idea of what I have been
>doing, but he is willing to discredit me. For all of those people who have
>received help from me, how do they feel to see people who claim to be
>Christians attacking me. Do you think they want to associate with the
>Christian people, when they observe the cruel lies that people like Torell
>dish out? They could get that kind of back stabbing by staying in their
cult.
>
>      There is plenty of hope in my books on mind-control, and many victims
of
>mind-control have gained some hope from them. Some have sent me donations
to
>spread the books to others who don&#8217;t have money. But Torell would
like to keep
>them from my information. Who is stealing these people&#8217;s hope?
Again, we see
>the things Torell accused me of, he is the guilty party.
>
>      Torell claims that I was very angry at him for his article about
Johnny Todd.
>I can see how the frankness of my letter might be misinterpreted, but I was
in
>no way angry with him, and treated Torell with kindness and respect when I
met
>him. Torell must have a guilty conscience or a chip on his shoulder to
react
>the way he did. Will Torell repent like he loudly advises for the victims
he
>slanders, or will he continue to inundate us with more lies?
>I have repeatedly come to the defense of Christian brothers who have been
>slandered, and in the case of Todd, it was important that Todd&#8217;s
message not
>be lost. Todd, to the best of my knowledge, ended up giving his life and
>reputation for that message. Torell writes, &#8220;I can understand the
frustration
>that Pastor Rasmussen must have gone through, with not only Fritz attacking
>him, but also Jack Chick&#8230;&#8221;  More lies, I&#8217;m surprised
Torell doesn&#8217;t have a
>nose as long as a broom.  I never attacked Roland Rasmussen. I have the
utmost
>respect for the man, and Pastor Rasmussen has told me personally on several
>occasions he has a lot of respect for me. Roland was willing to learn from
my
>information; and he realized that because he and others didn&#8217;t
understand the
>mind-control and M.P.D. (aka DID), the strange things Todd said and did
were
>not well understood. Anyone is quite welcome to call Roland Rasmussen and
ask
>him about how he feels toward Todd and me. You will not find any
bitterness,
>you will not hear any of the outrageous lies that Torell vomits, but
instead
>you will find a devote man of God who loves the King James Bible. Roland
did
>confront Todd with his contradictory statements, but he did it in love, and
he
>was also humble enough to be willing to consider that his conclusions about
>Todd were wrong. That is something Torell has not been.
>
>      I give 5 tools for people to protect themselves from media deception.
Torell
>claims that these tools are tricky double talk that comes from intelligence
>services. Wrong, they are tools that have been recognized by sincere
>Christians before I recognized them. Some of them have been taught in the
>Basic Youth Seminars to sincere audiences of hundreds of thousands of
>Christians. I don&#8217;t base truth on numbers, and I didn&#8217;t give
these tools
>because they were popular, I gave them because they are scriptural. For
>instance, there are biblical proverbs that are generalized truths, that
should
>not be understood as specific for every event. If one understands that the
>proverb is meant in a general way, it frees the believer to trust God. The
>media often takes a specific case and tries to generalize it or vice versa.
>This is not the place to write a book or even an article defending these
>tools, the wise won&#8217;t need such a book for these tools are honest
tools, and
>fools won&#8217;t heed what I have to say about them anyway. Torell claims
that
>these came from the intelligence services and people in the occult. It is
>possible that these people also know how to cut through the baloney of life
>and have also discovered them. However, I tend to think that Torell made
this
>outrageous claim without any foundation. I would be interested: where in
the
>occult world have they ever stated these tools for exposing deception?
It&#8217;s
>possible that the world also found these truths; even sinners can know
>truthful things. However, I didn&#8217;t go to the world to discover them,
I found
>them as a follower of Christ seeking truth, and I will be happy to explain
>them to other truth seekers who know that truth can be found.
>
>      Torell claims &#8220;But he [Fritz] tells them there is no real
truth&#8230;&#8221; Is this
>really what I&#8217;ve said?  For my entire adult Christian life I have
boldly
>proclaimed that there is a real truth. For that bold stand, I have been
>ostracized in churches, in schools, and in other arenas. Now, Torell comes
>along and claims that what I&#8217;ve suffered for I never said. I
challenge Torell
>to find any statement to support his claim. There is a real truth, and the
>real truth in this matter is that Torell has made another bold face lie. As
an
>example of what I&#8217;ve preached look at my Prophecy Club video tape
where I
>present several of my overheads which talk about truth&#8212;not some
relative
>truth&#8212;but truth that you can count on. Then to cover up his bold lie,
Torell
>misuses a scripture, which he pretends proves me wrong, which talks about
how
>we should be frank and honest. The scripture says nothing about
understanding
>the deeper things. There are numerous scriptures, which teach that there
are
>deeper things. As we grow in understanding we understand love, grace and
faith
>and many other things much deeper. What I wrote was in line with Scripture.
I
>wrote about understanding, not about communication. But who has been
dishonest
>in his communication, Torell or me? The verse Torell quoted in Matthew
teaches
>us to be honest and frank, and Torell has once again been on the wrong side
of
>the scripture he tries to use against me.
>
>      Torell says that people who have given him information about me have
been
>afraid they would be killed if I found out who they were.  Almost every
>slanderous lie under the sun has been told about me, and no one has ever
been
>hurt or even threatened by me. None of these anonymous slanderers can come
up
>with anything original.  I believe that the real reason these persons
don&#8217;t
>want to stand behind their statements with their names is that what they
say
>are lies and they don&#8217;t have the guts to lie in public.
>
>      Some papers have a policy that if a letter comes to their newspapers
without a
>name they will not print it because it is a poor policy to allow people to
>make negative statements without anything behind it. In a court of law, the
>person charged gets to see his assailants. However, Jesus was hit while he
>could not see his assailants, and then mocked. This is what has gone on in
my
>life too. My wife commented upon seeing Torell&#8217;s article that
&#8220;He and these
>other people are like mosquitoes that buzz around your head preventing you
>from doing the work God called you to.&#8221; After patiently allowing
these
>mosquitoes to buzz around my head for years, I&#8217;ve begun telling the
truth
>about these ungodly liars. I will continue to tell the truth about them, as
>long as they continue their lies about me.
>
>      Torell claims that all these accusations he has made were
&#8220;substantiated&#8221;.
>That claim is easy for Torell to make because he obviously isn&#8217;t
concerned
>with the truth. Already, I have shown the reader numerous boldfaced
malicious
>lies. Torell&#8217;s style of writing should give away his lack of fairness
and
>impartiality. Although he tries to put a veneer of Christianity on his
>writing, he misuses Scriptures and displays a total lack of the fruits of
the
>Spirit. Torell never tried to learn my side of things. Torell claims that
he
>has an affidavit that &#8220;refutes all accusations against him.&#8221; In
this case,
>Torell builds what is called a straw man. That means something easy to tear
>down. There is no way any paper could refute all the lies spread about me.
>That could easily take a book.
>
>      Torell claims I try to defend myself by destroying the credibility of
the
>witnesses against me, and he implies that this is a dirty tactic. The
>credibility of a witness is important in a search for truth, but obviously
it
>isn&#8217;t for Torell. Torell has been willing to pass on any lie that has
come
>down the pike without asking if his witnesses were credible. Because of
this
>short sidedness Torell has accepted the statements of a thief, and worse.
>It is obvious that some of the information Torell uses came from a man
named
>Ron Patton. (There are many instances, but for one instance, Ron has tried
to
>misquote my Vol. 2 book to make it sound like I slipped up and claimed to
be
>programmed, and his twisted logic is repeated in Torell&#8217;s article.)
Ron Patton
>has pretended to be a Christian. He pretended to be my friend, and told my
>wife lies for two years to get her to divorce me. This is the kind of man
>Torell uses against me. Ron told me that he would help me by storing some
>boxes of books. I had several thousand of my books entitled The Watchtower
&
>the Masons printed, and Ron stored many of the new books. He gave me part
of
>what he had and then lied to me that he had given them all to me. He kept
>about a thousand new books secretly for himself, which he began selling. I
>thought something was strange. I was to pay the printer when I got the
books.
>I had paid most of my printer&#8217;s bill, all except something like
$1300&#8212;(I don&#8217;t
>remember the exact amount, and the Feds took lots of my paperwork in their
>recent raid)-- but I was missing $10,000 worth of books. When I figured out
>that Ron had the missing books, I tried to recover the stolen property. He
>lied his way out of it. The police never told us to vacate the property.
What
>he said was that the matter was a civil matter and I needed to contact a
>lawyer.
>
>      I did retain a lawyer to recover the stolen books, but he was
>seriously injured in a car accident the day after I hired him. The police
>would not talk to me, but gave me the bureaucratic runaround.  Ron had
turned
>the printer against me with his worn out lies about me. Ron had a lot of
>nerve. Here he was telling people I was a Satanist, and then selling my
books
>that he stole and pocketing the money. When I failed to recover my stolen
>books because of the inept police, I tried calling the printer. It was
really
>difficult to understand how the printer could be so counterproductive and
rude
>to me. I offered to pay him half the remaining bill, and when I got the
books
>from Ron, I would pay the rest. He declined. It was clear that Ron&#8217;s
lies had
>done their work that the printer would not even work with me. Since he had
>been overpaid for the books I did receive, and I had done everything above
>board, and had spent a valuable week trying to legally recover my stolen
>books, I decided to allow God to deal with these thieves. Now, I see Torell
>has joined up with them. Birds of a feather flock together. Torell would
like
>to steal my good name and murder my reputation, so he has joined up with a
man
>who has said in public he was trained by the Jesuits and was an alcoholic,
and
>in secret encouraged my wife to divorce me. (I have also seen his Catholic
>High School yearbook.) This makes me wonder about Torell&#8217;s training.
Who
>trained him to spread such lies?  How can any sincere gospel-believing
church
>back such a man?
>
>      The Word of God states, &#8220;For it is shameful even to speak of
those things
>which are done by them in secret.&#8221;  When I read this I think of my
ex-wife.
>She is still the mother of my son, and I would rather not tell the truth
about
>her, even though she has spread the most outrageous lies about me. Torell
does
>not know her at all, but since she likes to murder my reputation, and
attends
>a church, that is evidence that she is a godly Christian. (The Pharisees
were
>great religious people too.) What kind of doctrine does Torell believe in
that
>permits him to know this woman is godly because she attends a church?  Is
>Torell&#8217;s belief Biblical?
>
>      He doesn&#8217;t know me, nor my ex-wife, but Torell is quick to
judge me as
>&#8220;another human tragedy&#8221; and her as someone who has a
&#8220;solid faith in Jesus
>Christ.&#8221; He calls my description of her &#8220;outlandish
accusations&#8221;, and yet I
>was married to her for 8 years, and he has never even met her.  I was
married
>to the lady and she had zero faith in Christ, but she is a great social
>Christian who goes along with the world and its persecution of me. Church
>attendance doesn&#8217;t make someone right with God, and I hope she wakes
up to
>that before judgment day.
>
>      My entire high school class knows I went to West Point, my hometown
knew it
>for it was on the front page of the local paper, all my relatives knew it,
and
>my ex-wife knew it, but she has joined with some nasty people to destroy
me,
>and just one of the big lies she has helped spread is that I never went to
>West Point. This lie has been spread everywhere. Where is the fear of God,
>that this woman can knowingly spread this lie, and even worse lies, and
know
>that they are lies?  At least most of the people who repeat them
don&#8217;t know
>they are lies, but my ex-wife does. And this is the type of person Torell
>holds up to us as godly?  If Torell really believes his own advice, he
would
>fall down on his face and beg Almighty God&#8217;s forgiveness for
spreading such
>evil slander. Even if I weren&#8217;t a good person, a slanderous lie about
me is
>still a lie.
>
>      One of the things my ex-wife did was to give personal papers of mine
to
>detractors who were trying to destroy me. Giving my paperwork away was
>unethical. The papers would not in themselves be damaging if it
weren&#8217;t for
>lies that have been built around them. For instance, my then-wife (now my
>ex-wife) gave some legal papers that listed me as the child of Arthur
>Alexander. I am the grandchild of Arthur Alexander, but this legal
paperwork,
>which listed his children, was sloppy and listed me in the list. My mother
>died, and I take her place with all her siblings. The legal paperwork
should
>have named the list &#8220;children and grandchildren&#8221; but it
didn&#8217;t.  Kurt Billings
>immediately began telling people that this was proof I was the son of John
>Alexander an Illuminati programmer. Although the last name is the same,
there
>are lots of Alexanders and my relatives are entirely unrelated to John
>Alexander. My relatives are godly farm people and have nothing to do with
the
>occult.
>
>      Torell claims that Texe Marrs did not find any record of me at West
Point.
>That is another lie. Texe has seen my West Point yearbook. He sells my
books,
>and in no way disputes my attendance at West Point.  I have great respect
for
>Texe Marrs, and I know that Texe loves me as a Christian brother and is
very
>concerned about the current campaign to discredit me.
>Torell claims my first wife divorced me on grounds of child abuse. That is
>another lie. She divorced me on grounds of incompatibility. Under oath she
did
>admit to prostitution, several drug convictions, and other things. She
married
>me to take my money and then divorced me. Torell doesn&#8217;t know his
facts, nor
>does he know about my personal life, which really isn&#8217;t any of his
business.
>But he should get his facts straight before he goes public with such
>incredible lies. When asked under oath when she realized that the marriage
to
>me was a total failure and had no hope, she gave our wedding day. The next
>question was, &#8220;What did he do that showed you there was no hope for
the
>marriage?&#8221; She replied with a deep snarl, &#8220;He asked me to have
se-e-x with
>him.&#8221; This is from a woman who admitted to being a prostitute. The
court
>reporter after all this came up and hugged me, and said he was sorry for me
>that I&#8217;d ever gotten mixed up with this person. But Torell knows
nothing about
>these things. He only knows the garbage that he has willingly digested from
an
>army of dirty liars. Yes, I was an easy target for her to take for a ride,
and
>then drop when she got my money.
>
>      The story about my ex finding a black box is another lie.  It is also
a lie
>that I ever married her because of her bloodline. I didn&#8217;t even know
about her
>bloodline when I married her. Her letter to Texe Marrs was typically full
of
>lies.  Texe shared her letter with me, and I sent him a letter several
pages
>long refuting what she said point by point. The biggest joke is when she
says,
>&#8220;I love Fritz and find no pleasure in discrediting him&#8230;&#8221;
She had been working
>with a spirit of murder for a long time prior to this letter and continues
>working under the same spirit. My present wife has gotten to see for
herself
>how hateful this evil ex-wife is. I can&#8217;t fault Torell for not
knowing her, he
>hasn&#8217;t met her. I can fault him for printing her lies without
verifying them
>or hearing my side of things, and for assuming that she is a great
Christian.
>
>      Torell accuses me of being CIA. Why else would I supposedly be
interviewed by
>the Contact newspaper?  If the truth be known, the Contact paper
plagiarized
>my writing without asking me. They have done that to others also (and
actually
>gotten into trouble). After they used my material from my books without
asking
>me, Ron Patton immediately came out with his lies that I was CIA and not a
>Christian because my material appeared in their paper. Later, they came to
me
>and requested an interview. Since my material had already appeared in their
>paper, and people like Patton had made as much hay about that as possible,
I
>knew I had nothing to lose image-wise. I prayed about it, and realized
Christ
>would have used any forum for truth, including preaching in hell if he had
to.
>However, the people from the Contact paper treated me far more Christ like
>than Ron Patton, and others of his ilk. If the Contact paper is so bad as
>Patton writes (and maybe it is), they stand heads above Patton. On the
other
>hand, a number of Christians who Ron Patton considers good Christians
actually
>subscribe to the Contact paper and enjoyed their interview of me.
>
>      I was in ministry to bring Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses to Christ for
ten years. I
>worked under Witness, Inc.  Our disagreement came when I began to expose
the
>infiltration in the Christian churches. They were willing to expose the
>Watchtower&#8217;s errors, but they were not willing to expose the errors
within the
>Christian churches.  All of us who want to stay true to Christ are finding
it
>difficult in this day of apostasy and ecumenicalism.  I on my part
separated
>in a loving spirit from a group who&#8217;d had me for a missionary for ten
years.
>Before I began exposing the new world order, they had had me as one of
their
>yearly conference speakers.  My knowledge about the new world order was too
>controversial for them, so I went from being respected to being shunned. I
>don&#8217;t expect any sympathy from people like Torell, who love to repeat
a matter
>that they know nothing about.
>
>      Again Torell pretends to know how I spent my money. My now ex-wife,
while she
>was my wife, was very jealous of my ministry. Although I was in ministry
>before we married, and she acted like she was supportive of it, after we
>married she tried to destroy it. She called up people who donated money to
my
>ministry and told them I&#8217;d misused the money. She didn&#8217;t know
how I&#8217;d spent or
>saved it. I had received $3,000 each month for six months. After she
>completely destroyed the ministry&#8217;s finances, she then told people
that I was
>freeloading off of her.  This is the same tactic she has used in other
ways.
>She has broken the law and kept me from having any of my visits with my
son,
>and then tells people I don&#8217;t love him because I don&#8217;t visit
him. These things
>are really no one else&#8217;s business, but unfortunately there are lots
of
>Pharisees who want to cast stones at me, and who are willing to pick away
at
>my entire life with incidents they know nothing about.
>
>      Many people have benefited from my books. The books speak for
themselves. Yes,
>some people dislike me, and don&#8217;t want me to speak at conferences.
They are
>people like Torell who are busy telling big bold lies about me. I have yet
to
>see anyone try to discredit me with the whole truth and nothing but the
truth.
>When the Feds raided me, they found a few politically incorrect books which
>they deem to call &#8220;hate literature&#8221;, and these books which were
nestled among
>my big library in the privacy of my own home, became the basis of news
stories
>sent all over the world by API that they discovered hate literature in my
>home. Never mind all the love literature I have in my home. Yes, if we
distort
>the truth, you can begin to make me look suspicious. In fact, Torell could
not
>resist the temptation to use the establishment media as a source. I have
>already written exposes of the media&#8217;s lies, and these have been
posted on
>several web sites. In fact, FOX news did a retraction. Torell could have
>learned that these news stories were full of bogus information, but instead
he
>quotes them as if they were proof of how bad I am. So Torell now hitches up
>with the establishment media. No wonder he asks us to pray that George Bush
>regain control of the CIA.
>
>      I believe I have made my point. Honestly, I could write more, but it
would be
>more of the same. The reader should have gotten the point by now. Torell
has
>falsely accused a brother of Christ. He will try to redeem himself by
saying I
>didn&#8217;t answer every accusation. I say to him to first explain to me
his proof
>of his (shown-to-be false) accusations and then well go on to deal with the
>rest of his lies.
>
>     It is spiritual pride that blinds men to the point they pick up stones
and try
>to stone someone when they themselves are guilty of what they accuse others
>of. Let us pray for a pure holy fear of the Lord to sweep the Body of
Christ
>so that we can attain a better unity. We will never attain a unity, when
>out-of-control accusers rampage through God&#8217;s people like Torell has
done to
>me. Torell states that his informants live in fear. After seeing their
lies,
>it is no wonder, they certainly can&#8217;t be telling such yarns and
living in the
>presence of the Lord. In Torell&#8217;s article, he constantly seeks his
own
>recognition for what he has written about. The Word of God says that: Each
>man&#8217;s work will become evident; for the DAY will show it&#8230; (1
COR 3:13)  What
>kind of works will God see in all this?
>
>      The Word of God says that persecution will show us His people. I
realized
>while writing this, that one of the ways His people are revealed by
>persecution is that they are not the ones carrying it out. We have all been
>warned: judge not that ye be not judged. Torell may not like that, but it
is
>part of the counsel of God.
>If I were to see a lesson in all this, it is to warn all of us to be
sensitive
>to Christ, and not to latch onto the demons of Accusation, Slander, Gossip,
>Pride, Self-righteousness, Unrighteous judgment, Jealousy, Faultfinding and
>Hate. These demons gain their power from deception.  A house divided
against
>itself can not stand.  In a time when the World Power is so threatening, it
is
>sad that so much attention is misdirected toward slandering my personal
life.
>I should not be the focus of your attention. You should focus on Christ,
and
>you must keep your eyes open to the moves of the enemy. I have written this
>defense so that if any child of God sees the horrible slander about me,
that
>they don&#8217;t join in this unholy crusade. Please don&#8217;t lower
yourself to these
>depths.
>
>      Legally, anyone today who publishes the things John S. Torell has
published
>about me which indeed cannot be proven and are stated as fact rather than
>opinion are guilty of an indictable offense. I have already won one court
case
>against someone who said far fewer lies than Torell.  In that case, I had
to
>go to court because of the circumstances. In 15 minutes I won over a $3,500
>settlement.
>
>      Like my wife says, people like Torell are like mosquitoes, no matter
how much
>I explain the truth and defend myself, there will probably always be a few
>buzzing around trying to bite me. At a certain point, I have a duty to
carry
>out my calling before God, a calling I have scripturally explained hundreds
of
>times, so that Torell&#8217;s accusation that I use ambiguous terminology
for my
>calling is ludicrous. Torell has been too busy listening to lies from the
pit
>of hell to read the scriptures God gave to me which explain His calling on
my
>life. Spending my time on Torell&#8217;s lies is not my calling from God,
and if he
>continues to want to suck up more of my time, that is his problem between
him
>and God. I serve God not Torell.
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