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Adam Kowalczyk wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd:After McVeigh Execution
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:14:19 -0400
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> Adam Kowalczyk wrote:
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> > Monday, June 11, 2001
> > After McVeigh Execution:
> > Feel Any Better Now?
> > RICHARD MORAN, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Professor of sociology and criminology at Mount Holyoke College, Moran is
> > currently working on a book about the death penalty. He has testified at
> > dozens of death penalty sentencing hearings. Moran said today: "McVeigh was
> > unapologetic because, like many murderers, he viewed his killing as evening
> > the score. The death penalty is generally not a deterrent,
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> This is the stupidest argument for abolishing the death penalty. It is
> simply NOT TRUE. Any one of us has had a situation where we would have loved
> to
> do some asshole in, but didn't. THERE IS NO WAY OF MEASURING HOW MANY KILLINGS
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> WERE PREVENTED BY THE FEAR OF BEING CAUGHT, JAILED, AND PUT TO DEATH!!!
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> leaving no way to support such either...no way of measuring...so why set a bad
> example...
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> your words indicate your anger and, as such, i am not surprised you vehemently
> support killing...only the bad guy of course...
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Not anger at all. You don't get it. The death penalty is the only SURE
way to prevent a killer from killing again. Secondly the point above was
that it DOES deter killing but you can't count how much. Thirdly, the claim
that the death penalty is not a deterrent is a lie. There are general stats
that show it is a deterrent but by their nature one can not make a decisive
argument either way.

There is no moral reason for not killing a murderer. There is a compelling
moral reason however, for doing so. To prevent him from killing an innocent
person or persons again.

It is nonsense that anti death penalty proponents consider themselves on
the moral high ground. If you doubt this statement, then just look at who
makes up the majority of anti death penalty boosters. Liberals. This should
be ample evidence that morals have nothing to do with the issue, but feelings
do.

As with all things liberal, it's about how the Liberal feels about him/her
self that the issue is really about. In this case the Liberal feels genuine
empathic pain when he thinks about the killing of the murderer/(victim). It
is release from this pain that the liberal wants to achieve. AND, the always
convenient feel good, of goodness by association with others who operate from
the same motivations overlaid with syrupy bullshit. This has nothing
to do with morals, or justice, or the safety of the rest of society.

There is no doubt that the death penalty is a phony issue for these people,
because you never hear them offer to support the killers for the rest of
their unnatural lives. Just like the anti abortionists who talk big, but are
not interested in adopting the babies that are unwanted and unaborted.

Finally, there are people who are just sociopathic monsters. Why should
society
support their life? If they get loose, they will kill again. Unfortunately,
the odds are that it won't be a Liberal or someone else who stood in the
way of guaranteeing that the killer would not kill innocent people again.

Joshua2

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