-Caveat Lector-

we did not lose the war in Vietnam because of protests here.
we lost because it was not a winnable war, it was not a moral war, and it
was not our war.


--
  Doubt.
   Doubt thyself.
   Doubt even if thou doubtest thyself.
   Doubt all.
   Doubt even if thou doubtest all.
   It seems sometimes as if beneath all conscious doubt
     there lay some deepest certainty.  O kill it!  Slay the
     snake!
   The horn of the Doubt-Goat be exalted
   Dive deeper, ever deeper, into the Abyss of Mind,
     until thou unearth the fox THAT.  On, hounds!
     Yoicks!  Tally-ho!  Bring THAT to bay!
   Then, wind the Mort!

                                           Uncle Al. the kiddies pal




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> An Open Letter to the "Anti-War" Demonstrators:
> Think Twice Before You Bring The War Home
> By David Horowitz
> FrontPageMagazine.com | September 27, 2001
> URL: http://www.frontpagemag.com/horowitzsnotepad/2001/hn09-27-01p
>
> Editor’s Note:
> The text below is being run as an advertisement in college
> newspapers around
> the country. To see a graphic version of the ad, click here.
> I AM a
> former anti-war activist who helped to organize the first campus
> demonstration
> against the war in Vietnam at the University of California,
> Berkeley in 1962.
> I appeal to all those young people who participated in "anti-war"
> demonstrations on 150 college campuses this week, to think again and not to
> join an "anti-war" effort against America’s coming battle with international
> terrorism.
> The hindsight of history
> has shown that our efforts in the 1960s to end the war in Vietnam had two
> practical
> effects. The first was to prolong the war itself. Every testimony by North
> Vietnamese
> generals in the postwar years has affirmed that they knew they could not
> defeat
> the United States on the battlefield, and that they counted on the division
> of our people at home to win the war for them. The Vietcong forces we were
> fighting
> in South Vietnam were destroyed in 1968. In other words, most of the war and
> most of the casualties in the war occurred because the dictatorship of North
> Vietnam counted on the fact Americans would give up the battle rather than pay
> the price necessary to win it. This is what happened. The blood of hundreds
> of thousands of Vietnamese, and tens of thousands of Americans, is on the
> hands
> of the anti-war activists who prolonged the struggle and gave victory to the
> Communists.
> The second effect of the
> war was to surrender South Vietnam to the forces of Communism. This resulted
> in the imposition of a monstrous police state, the murder of hundreds of
> thousands
> of innocent South Vietnamese, the incarceration in "re-education camps"
> of hundreds of thousands more, and a quarter of a century of abject poverty
> imposed by crackpot Marxist economic plans, which continue to this day. This,
> too, is the responsibility of the so-called anti-war movement of the 1960s.
> I say "so-called anti-war
> movement," because while many Americans were sincerely troubled by America’s
> war effort, the organizers of this movement were Marxists and radicals who
> supported
> a Communist victory and an American defeat. Today the same people and their
> youthful followers are organizing the campus demonstrations against America’s
> effort to defend its citizens against the forces of international terrorism
> and anti-American hatred, responsible for the September attacks.
> I know, better than most,
> the importance of protecting freedom of speech and the right of citizens to
> dissent. But I also know better than most, that there is a difference between
> honest dissent and malevolent hate, between criticism of national policy, and
> sabotage of the nation’s defenses. In the 1960s and 1970s, the tolerance of
> anti-American hatreds was so high, that the line between dissent and treason
> was eventually erased. Along with thousands of other New Leftists, I was one
> who crossed the line between dissent and actual treason. (I have written an
> account of these matters in my autobiography, Radical Son). I did so for what
> I thought were the noblest of reasons: to advance the cause of "social
> justice" and "peace." I have lived to see how wrong I was and
> how much damage we did – especially to those whose cause we claimed to
> embrace,
> the peasants of Indo-China who suffered grievously from our support for the
> Communist enemy. I came to see how precious are the freedoms and opportunities
> afforded by America to the poorest and most humble of its citizens, and how
> rare its virtues are in the world at large.
> If I have one regret from
> my radical years, it is that this country was too tolerant towards the treason
> of its enemies within. If patriotic Americans had been more vigilant in the
> defense of their country, if they had called things by their right names, if
> they had confronted us with the seriousness of our attacks, they might have
> caught the attention of those of us who were well-meaning but utterly
> misguided.
> And they might have stopped us in our tracks.
> This appeal is for those
> of you who are out there today attacking your country, full of your
> own self-righteousness,
> but who one day might also live to regret what you have done. David
>
> Horowitz is editor-in-chief of FrontPageMagazine.com and president
> of the Center
> for the Study of Popular Culture.
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