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[ Last | Latest Posts | Latest Articles | Self Search | Add Bookmark | Post | Abuse | Help! ] Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. FBI Spends Millions Buying Dossiers On Almost All American Adults Government Extended News News Keywords: CHOICEPOINT INC, FBI Source: privacyfoundation.org Published: 5-12-1 Author: By Richard Smith Posted on 05/12/2001 07:41:42 PDT by antonia FBI Spends Millions Buying Dossiers On Almost All American Adults By Richard Smith http://www.privacyfoundation.org/commentary/tipsheet.asp 5-12-1 I was a bit surprised to learn last month that I have an FBI file. You have one, too. The FBI spent $8 million last year with a company called ChoicePoint Inc. to buy dossiers on almost all adults who live in the United States. ChoicePoint, formerly a part of credit-reporting giant Equifax, is a publicly-held database firm with a market value of $2.25 billion, based in Alpharetta, Ga. Using our Social Security numbers as a key personal identifier, ChoicePoint compiles dossiers on citizens from credit reports, and from public records such as court files, property tax documents, business incorporations, and professional license applications. ChoicePoint bundles the information and resells it to business and government clients. The FBI is apparently such a good customer that they get their own website to access the database. The Wall Street Journal reported on the FBI's use of this database on April 13. After reading the article, I e-mailed ChoicePoint CEO Derek Smith asking to see the dossiers on my family. A couple weeks later, after paying $20 apiece for the privilege, I received by mail a packet of more than 60 pages of computer print-outs from ChoicePoint containing information about myself and my wife. Sixty pages seemed like a lot of information for one family. Looking through the first few pages of my dossier I saw that my credit card companies gave ChoicePoint my current address, plus my previous two addresses. My town gave them information about my house: when I bought it, how much I paid for it, and my property taxes. They even had the square footage for the house, which I've been curious to know ever since we moved in. Since my wife and I have the same phone number in the White Pages, ChoicePoint correctly deduced that she and I are related. The deeper I dove into my dossier, however, the weirder things got. A lot of misleading information is included, perhaps because my name is a common one. ChoicePoint noted, for example, that I might have been previously married to some lady named Mary, but that I had died in 1976. Yikes! They did a search of Texas criminal records and found nothing under my name. However, the report suggested a further search under names such as "Ricky Smith" and "Rickie Smith" because there were some bad guys in jail under these names. ChoicePoint touted me as a real estate agent in my town. They also thought I might be involved in more than 30 small businesses around the country simply because the name "Richard Smith" appears as a company officer. On my wife's dossier I learned with amazement that she had a son named "Kyle" three years before we met. It was unclear from the report how ChoicePoint made this connection and where Kyle is today. Pretty funny how they missed our two real daughters. They did list one of my daughters as a neighbor, but she actually hasn't lived at home for the last eight years since she went away to college. Memo to the FBI: The ChoicePoint dossier for my household contains more misinformation than correct information. I'm not sure how someone looking over these reports could use them in any meaningful way without already knowing a good deal about myself and my wife. After seeing these reports, I wanted to opt-out. Guess what? Just as with credit reporting agencies, you can't. They choose to have a relationship with you, but you have no choice in your relationship with them. In my original e-mail message to the ChoicePoint CEO, I asked about opting out. I got a nice letter back from the ChoicePoint chief privacy officer saying "No." Here was the reason given: "Our individual reference products are used by legitimate businesses and government agencies to identify and locate individuals to make society a safer place, including detecting and preventing fraud, locating and apprehending fugitives, and finding missing children and reuniting them with their families. Given these uses and the adverse effect opt-out would have on our ability to provide quality information for these decisions that matter, I am unable to remove your information from these products." Hmmm. My next level of concern is about how the misinformation in these files could be used against me. Besides providing information to the FBI, ChoicePoint helps companies conduct employee background checks, fraud investigations, and review insurance applications. I don't want to be hassled simply because a stranger who is listed on my dossier does something wrong. I'm also wondering whether information about me is mistakenly on the dossiers of people with a similar name. Using mistaken information can have ugly consequences. This happened last year when ChoicePoint provided criminal history information to the state of Florida. In a lawsuit filed in January, the NAACP alleges that thousands of legal voters were mistakenly taken off the rolls in Florida prior to November's disputed presidential election. ChoicePoint claims that Florida county election officials failed to properly correlate ChoicePoint information with voter eligibility. Given ChoicePoint's stated desire to deliver quality information to businesses and government agencies, I've sent them marked up copies of the dossiers on my family so that they can correct their databases. If you want to see your own FBI/ChoicePoint dossier, you can order it for $20 through the CDB InfoTek (now owned by ChoicePoint) website linked below. How can I get a copy..., CDB InfoTek (scroll down page) FBI Turns to Private Sector for Data, The Wall Street Journal via MSNBC, 4/13/01 Florida's Flawed "Voter-cleansing" Program, Salon.com, 12/04/00 Database Technologies Did Not Remove Voters From Florida Rolls, Company Testifies Before U.S. Civil Rights Commission, ZDNet, 2/16/01 1 Posted on 05/12/2001 07:41:42 PDT by antonia [ Reply | Private Reply | Top | Last ] To: antonia Bump. 2 Posted on 05/12/2001 07:43:25 PDT by SevenDaysInMay [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: antonia Antonia, thank you. It might be cheaper and even more informative to do a FOIA request for your file from the FBI. ...but they would accidently fail to turn over 300+ documents. 3 Posted on 05/12/2001 07:51:14 PDT by SC Swamp Fox [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Commonsense, citizenx7, RightWinger, dixie sass, stand watie, Dr.No A Big Brother flag to my fellow SC Freepers. The FBI probably had to give me one of those expandable folders just to hold all of my E-mails to the WH and congress, and copies of all of my BB, Usenet and FR posts over the years. 4 Posted on 05/12/2001 07:55:10 PDT by SC Swamp Fox [ Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | Top | Last ] To: antonia Antonia - Did they get your FR handle right? 5 Posted on 05/12/2001 08:04:19 PDT by Tunehead54 [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: SC Swamp Fox The FBI can require reimbursement of "reasonable" costs for conducting and replying to a FOIA. I've never made one to the FBI, but I'll bet their "reasonable" costs are prohibitive. This outfit is interesting; I think I'll cough up the 20 bucks and see what they have one me. 6 Posted on 05/12/2001 08:11:29 PDT by JoeFromCA [ Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | Top | Last ] To: Hugh Akston ....so it continues!!! 7 Posted on 05/12/2001 08:12:00 PDT by OneidaM [ Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | Top | Last ] To: antonia "Our individual reference products are used by legitimate businesses and government agencies to identify and locate individuals to make society a safer place, including detecting and preventing fraud, locating and apprehending fugitives, and finding missing children and reuniting them with their families." What a bunch of malarkey. If their monitoring of private citizens was doing one damn thing to make "society a safer place," we'd be living in Utopia by now. Excellent post, Antonia. We all know government forces see us citizens as little more than lab rats, but to see specific examples like this is pretty chilling. 8 Posted on 05/12/2001 08:37:59 PDT by white rose [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: antonia Insurance companies now routinely access your information to obtain (a) credit information, (b) claims history, (c) driver history, and (d) information about anyone else in your household who might pose an undisclosed risk against your coverage. This is the same information which you used to voluntarily submit, however... What is truly frightening about ChoicePoint is that this information is provided instantaneously, and the volume of details about you and your life is staggering. Government itself could not legally gather these details without probable cause -- but it can buy information which already exists. So think twice before you voluntarily surrender too many details, even to your grocer. For example, if you use a Kroger "Plus" card in exchange for a discount, every item you buy (and when you bought it) is a matter of record which Big Brother can purchase or subpoena. Technology is indeed a two-edged sword... 9 Posted on 05/12/2001 10:11:49 PDT by Always A Marine [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: SC Swamp Fox Glad to see that George Orwell is alive and well and living in DC. 10 Posted on 05/12/2001 11:54:48 PDT by Commonsense [ Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | Top | Last ] To: antonia There might be an opportunity to use the lawsuit abuse system for a good purpose and sue them for libel and slander for incorrect information in your "dossier." 11 Posted on 05/12/2001 14:52:51 PDT by E. Pluribus Unum [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: antonia LOL! I can only imagine what my file looks like... Some accurate information, A lot of inaccurate information and a big heapin' helpin' of ambiguous, contradictory and downright bizarre information... ...courtesy of a couple of decades of intentional effort on my part to obfuscate databases just like this. It's easy to do. To begin, get on the mailing list of a courtesy card distributor and begin the process of presenting a hundred different faces to the info-harvesters. It doesn't require any significant time or effort, and only rarely a stamp. (most of the mail generated this way will contain postage-paid return stationary) I think of it as cheap entertainment... Within a few years you can be everyone from that (Fill in the ethnic group) who loves pornography and new age philosophies to the (Fill in the ethnic group) who loves 'monster trucks' and is on the mailing list of every fringe religious cult west of the Mississippi. (And virtually every group in between!) Don't use your self-descriptions in any of the prohibited ways (to obtain credit, etc.) and you can lie your ass off about every (imaginary) detail of a hundred different lives that no one ever lived. After awhile, people with your surname (or some variation of it) who don't even exist (and who you didn't create) will begin to get mail. Of course, your only address for this should be a PO Box. (That's the only address I'll give, it's even on my Driver's License) When anyone demands a street address, I shrug and say (truthfully) that I live in the country and refuse to set a box. About 5 years ago they assigned me an 'enhanced 911' number, and left the letter on my porch with instructions to put the number on the house since I won't provide a box on the roadside. I wiped my butt with it. On my checks I have the 'legal description' of the property where I live. (SW quarter of the NE half of the E quarter of...) If a cashier doesn't like it I get their supervisor front and center and make it clear how easy it is for me to trade with their competitor. They've always taken my check after these talks. My 'phone number' on the checks will ring an old phone that I pay the bill for in a workshop about 13 miles from my home. No one ever answers it. (There's very seldom anyone even there.) No SSN on my checks or Driver's License, and I never give it out. People don't even ask much anymore, which is a little disappointing... I always enjoyed saying 'No'. Deny access to accurate information to people who have no business asking for it to the maximum degree possible. Sow ambiguous and contradictory misinformation over time. Deal with a small, local financial institution for your checking account, auto loan and credit card requirements. With luck, you can generate a dossier that the Feds have to call in the Teamster when they want to move it. (You know, the guy who has the forklift license...) 12 Posted on 05/12/2001 20:21:35 PDT by DWSUWF [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Chesty_Puller, Bigun, usconservative, dons, MissAntiFeminazi, MsAntiVenom, GRRRR75 bump 13 Posted on 05/13/2001 06:55:04 PDT by dixie sass [ Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | Top | Last ] To: DWSUWF >From your FBI profile (based only on its weight) you must be a very dangerous >character. "Lets just break his door down and shoot him." "Well, yeah but where is he?" /sarcasm Live long and prosper......PC 14 Posted on 05/13/2001 07:15:57 PDT by Politically Correct [ Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | Top | Last ] To: antonia You do know that Equifax is a British-owned company don't you? 15 Posted on 05/13/2001 10:14:22 PDT by usconservative [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: Politically Correct "..."Lets just break his door down and shoot him." "Well, yeah but where is he?"..." LOL! That's the plan! Take care. 16 Posted on 05/13/2001 10:45:38 PDT by DWSUWF [ Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | Top | Last ] To: Dog Gone Just thought you'd appreciate this one. 17 Posted on 02/03/2002 09:11:35 PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace [ Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | Top | Last ] To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace Hmmm, I think it might be worth 20 bucks to see what they say about me. The invention of the computer and the internet (Thanks, Al) are the greatest threats to privacy ever. Now, the government and private individuals can sit at their own keyboards and retrieve records that previously were kept only in dusty file cabinets, if at all. Every transaction you make by credit card, and even your banking history can be easily accessed. It's possibly to maintain previous levels of individual privacy only by completely opting out of society. 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