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From: "John Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Global Warming: Socialisms Trojan Horse


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> So true.
>
> Greens are like watermelons -- green on the outside
> and red on the inside.
>

Ha ha ha ha ha ha. That's so funny! Try this one genius.
What's you on the outside, and dead on the inside?

Green is not socialism moron. Green is EVERYTHING.

Fortunately most people in the world have enough brains to
understand that their very existance depends on the good
functioning of the natural environment.

And yes... environmentalism in some form WILL be the idea
and primary cause of the extinction of Capitalism. But that's
because capitalism is THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE FORCE TO THE
ENVIRONMENT in the world at this time, and more folks come
to understand this every day. Since most people are poor and
don't have ANY vested interest in a system which only serves the
rich and the greedy who desperately want to be rich, it's obvious
that Capitalism is on the way out.

You and Johnson should submit your names to the " Darwin's"
list for consideration.

Enjoy it while you can,
Joshua2

>
>
> --- "M. A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > ~~for educational purposes only~~
> > [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107]
> >
> > Global Warming: Socialism's Trojan Horse
> > by Eric Englund
> >
> > On February 14, 2002, President Bush provided
> > details for
> > his plan to combat global warming. The cornerstone
> > of his
> > plan is to promote voluntary reductions in
> > greenhouse gas
> > emissions. Naturally, environmentalists were
> > outraged that
> > President Bush refused to adhere to the Kyoto
> > Treaty. It
> > is President Bush's contention that the Kyoto
> > protocol would
> > cost nearly 5,000,000 jobs in the U.S. alone. Of
> > course,
> > environmentalists claimed that there is a bigger
> > picture
> > here. All people, especially those living in
> > industrialized
> > countries such as the U.S., must sacrifice in order
> > to win
> > the universal struggle against global warming. As we
> > have
> > seen over the past three decades, environmentalists
> > have
> > succeeded in eroding property rights in the United
> > States in
> > order to protect Mother Earth as they see fit (i.e.
> > through
> > the Clean Water Act, through the Endangered Species
> > Act,
> > through ridiculous wetlands legislation, through air
> > quality
> > laws, etc). Whether or not President Bush
> > understands this,
> > the real struggle is between liberty and
> > totalitarianism.
> > For if environmentalists succeed in gradually taking
> > away
> > our private property rights, then a free market and
> > liberty
> > cannot exist. Thus, it is my contention that the
> > struggle
> > against environmentalism is actually a struggle for
> > liberty
> > (using the classical liberal definition).
> >
> > Undoubtedly, environmentalists will take exception
> > to being
> > called illiberal socialists (but I repeat myself).
> > Perhaps
> > there are those of you who are alarmed about global
> > warming
> > and sympathize with the environmental/green
> > movement. My
> > response is for you to be careful with whom you
> > associate;
> > which leads me to provide the following quote from
> > Dr. George
> > Reisman's magnum opus Capitalism:
> >
> >   ... it should not be surprising to see hordes of
> > former
> >   Reds, or of those who otherwise would have become
> > Reds,
> >   turning from Marxism and becoming the Greens of
> > the
> >   ecology movement. It is the same fundamental
> > philosophy
> >   in a different guise, ready as ever to wage war on
> > the
> >   freedom and well-being of the individual.
> >
> > So who are these former Reds who have converted to
> > Green
> > Socialism? One excellent example is Mikhail
> > Gorbachev. Mr.
> > Gorbachev is now the president of Green Cross
> > International
> > (a non-governmental environmental organization).
> > Among the
> > many issues with which Green Cross International has
> > become
> > involved, global warming is right at the top of its
> > list.
> > Gosh, when Mikhail Gorbachev, Ronald Reagan, and
> > Margaret
> > Thatcher became so chummy in the mid-1980s, I never
> > once
> > heard the Soviet dictator express concern about the
> > environment.
> > Clearly, Mr. Gorbachev has identified
> > environmentalism as a
> > Trojan horse capable of resurrecting socialism on a
> > global
> > scale.
> >
> > How can I say that about Mikhail Gorbachev? Didn't
> > he bring
> > glasnost (freedom of speech) and perestroika
> > (economic and
> > political reforms) to the Soviet Union? Indeed he
> > did. Yet,
> > these were means to his end of trying to save Soviet
> > Communism
> > and, therefore, to save his absolute and unspeakable
> > power
> > (that brought human misery to millions).
> >
> > Perhaps I am being too harsh on Mr. Gorbachev? To
> > this I
> > simply respond, read Requiem for Marx (edited by
> > Yuri N.
> > Maltsev). Dr. Maltsev was a reformist member of the
> > Institute
> > of Economics of the Soviet Academy of Sciences until
> > he defected
> > in 1989 (he now is an Associate Professor of
> > economics at
> > Carthage College and is a senior fellow of the
> > Ludwig von Mises
> > Institute). In writing the introduction to this
> > excellent book,
> > Dr. Maltsev states: "Gorbachev never learned
> > economics in school.
> > In all my dealings with him I had never seen even a
> > slight flash
> > of economic insight, or even the desire to learn
> > more about
> > economics. He preferred to think like a communist:
> > everything
> > can be done by issuing orders and demanding
> > obedience, no matter
> > how perverse, contrary to human nature, and brutal
> > they may be."
> > This certainly isn't the image painted by the United
> > States'
> > adoring press corps. Gorbachev seems to be so nice.
> >
> > To this I respond with another excerpt (regarding
> > the "nice" Mr.
> > Gorbachev) from Yuri Maltsev's introduction in
> > Requiem for Marx:
> >
> >   What he did in the Baltic States - authorizing the
> > Soviet
> >   military to crack the skulls of innocent people in
> > the
> >   Baltics - qualified him to be included among
> > history's
> >   litany of murderous rulers, but he was never
> > included.
> >   Even while he was heralded in the West as a great
> > reformer,
> >   he was also running labor camps, committing human
> > rights
> >   violations, and sending people to prison for
> > speech
> >   crimes. As the Soviet Union came to an end, the
> > public
> >   had been reduced to a collective of hunter
> > gatherers,
> >   barely living at a subsistence level.
> >
> > Maybe the former Soviet dictator has changed.
> > Perhaps Mikhail
> > Gorbachev really does care about the environment and
> > has no
> > interest in resurrecting socialism. To this, I
> > simply refer
> > one last time to Requiem for Marx. Yuri Maltsev
> > states: "Before
> > the coup that removed him from power, Gorbachev told
> > a reporter,
> > 'I've been told more than once that it is time to
> > stop swearing
> > allegiance to socialism.' 'Why should I? Socialism
> > is my deep
> > conviction, and I will promote it as long as I can
> > talk and
> > work'." Without a doubt, Mikhail Gorbachev views
> > environmentalism
> > (with its anti-capitalist mentality) as the movement
> > most likely
> > to succeed in defeating capitalism
> >
> > Are there other examples of socialists that have
> > come to embrace
> > environmentalism? Indeed, there is an
> > environmentalist in power
> > today. Libya's dictator, Muammar Al Qadhafi is an
> > unabashed
> > Green Socialist (I prefer to call him a Green
> > Communist). In
> >
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