-Caveat Lector- ----- Original Message ----- From: "thew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > on 3/22/02 11:53 AM, saba at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Well I imagine before this is over, the woman and man who owned the > > dogs, who are jewish, will be screaming "anti semitism" and if they > > appeal, the mate of the lesbian killed by the dogs will be charging > > discrimination...... > > Saba - I read this article, and I don¹t see any reference to jews or > lesbians in it. Where do you get that information from?
The woman who was killed was the partner of Sharon Smith, and they were a couple, and a lesbian couple, although that fact in and of itself was never important in this trial, nor should it have been. Noel and Knoller tried to make an issue out of this fact at one point, but it didn't fly. In fact, the accused couple basically hung themselves, as the article states. I live in the SF Bay, where this happened, and they had to move the trial because of the seriously offensive things that the defense - even Knoller and Noel - were saying after the charges were filed. It was ugly, thew, believe me, and the defendants were lucky that the trial had been moved because of the bad publicity (which had been entirely caused by themselves, I might add). It had nothing to do with the fact that Whipple was a lesbian, and ultimately it didn't come down to that. And from day one of the charges filed, the defendants Noel and Knoller dug their hole deeper and deeper and deeper. I'd almost feel that the 2nd degree murder charge was too much, as it was a dog which got out of control and not their own hands which killed Whipple, but, really, these two - Noel and Knoller - just acted at every turn like they were above the whole thing, until the end, and now we see images of Knoller "crying." She's crying for herself, not Whipple, whom her dog killed. Too bad. She attacked the victim in her words over and over, even before the trial. And Knoller's husband Noel fought to keep the dog alive after the initial indictment. The dog had already killed someone, and yet he fought to keep the dog alive. I hate to seem this callous, but these two people did hoist themselves by their own petard, as it were. And even their lawyer was horrible (and the defendants were both lawyers themselves! they actually wanted to defend themselves in the beginning!). The whole thing was pathetic, and they reaped their empty harvest. But, Jewish? I dunno ... although they haven't played that card yet, given everything these people have done to defend themselves, it wouldn't surprise me if they used that one in an appeal. But Noel is part of an Aryan brotherhood, so I seriously doubt it. But they have done just about everything else to put themselves where they are now. The race/sexuality issue here is a non-issue, bottom line. If either one of them tries to play the race card, it won't fly - not because of their races or despite it, but because they are idiots. - jt <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om