On 30/11/12 18:25, Iavor Diatchki wrote:
Hello Simon,
there was no discussion because I thought that this would be completely
uncontroversial since: (i) it does not change the current behavior, and
(ii) it adds new functionality which is quite useful.
Here is the use case that motivated me to implement this (described by
Eric Mertens, cc-ed on this e-mail). The example uses the `lens` package.
I know that Accessor has an Applicative instace because the operations
work. I'd like to find the instance, so I can see how it works, so I try:
Ok, so this is a bug: you shouldn't be able to use the instance because
it isn't in scope. If this was a source file, then GHC would complain
that the instance was not in scope.
The bug is (sort of) documented in the "Known Bugs" section of the user
guide, although the documentation incorrectly says that it also affects
--make, which it doesn't (I'll fix it).
So I don't really object to having this "feature", as long as we say
clearly in the documentation that it doesn't have a well-specified
behaviour, and the instances it shows may or may not actually be
available. (if we fix the bug, many of them won't be available, but it
might be useful to find out where to get them from).
Would you mind updating the docs, and close #5998?
Cheers,
Simon
Prelude Control.Applicative Control.Lens> :i Accessor
newtype Accessor r a
= Control.Lens.Internal.Accessor {Control.Lens.Internal.runAccessor :: r}
-- Defined in `Control.Lens.Internal'
instance Functor (Accessor r) -- Defined in `Control.Lens.Internal'
instance Gettable (Accessor r)
-- Defined in `Control.Lens.Internal’
Weird, it doesn’t show up, so what are the instances of `Applicative`?
Prelude Control.Applicative Control.Lens> :i Applicative
class Functor f => Applicative f where
pure :: a -> f a
(<*>) :: f (a -> b) -> f a -> f b
(*>) :: f a -> f b -> f b
(<*) :: f a -> f b -> f a
-- Defined in `Control.Applicative'
instance Applicative [] -- Defined in `Control.Applicative'
instance Applicative ZipList -- Defined in `Control.Applicative'
instance Monad m => Applicative (WrappedMonad m)
-- Defined in `Control.Applicative'
instance Applicative Maybe -- Defined in `Control.Applicative'
instance Applicative IO -- Defined in `Control.Applicative'
instance Applicative (Either e) -- Defined in `Control.Applicative'
instance Applicative ((->) a) -- Defined in `Control.Applicative'
instance Applicative Mutator -- Defined in `Control.Lens.Internal'
instance Applicative (Bazaar a b)
-- Defined in `Control.Lens.Internal’
It does not show up, but I'm sure that there is an instance as the
operations seem to work! It turns out that the only way to find the
instance is to not only already know that there is one and import the
appropriate module, but to also import the modules used in the context.
But if I already knew all of this I wouldn't have asked GHCi.
Prelude Control.Applicative Control.Lens> import Data.Monoid
Prelude Control.Applicative Control.Lens Data.Monoid> :i Accessor
newtype Accessor r a
= Control.Lens.Internal.Accessor {Control.Lens.Internal.runAccessor :: r}
-- Defined in `Control.Lens.Internal'
instance Functor (Accessor r) -- Defined in `Control.Lens.Internal'
*instance Monoid r => Applicative (Accessor r)*
-- Defined in `Control.Lens.Internal'
instance Gettable (Accessor r)
-- Defined in `Control.Lens.Internal'
In contrast, with ":info!" we get everything that GHCi knows about, so
it is quite easy to figure out what's going on.
-Iavor
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Simon Marlow <marlo...@gmail.com
<mailto:marlo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 30/11/12 02:03, Iavor Diatchki wrote:
Repository : ssh://darcs.haskell.org//srv/__darcs/ghc
<http://darcs.haskell.org//srv/darcs/ghc>
On branch : master
http://hackage.haskell.org/__trac/ghc/changeset/__2ec32a8e1cb323b230b0c228dbee31__3647892bf4
<http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/changeset/2ec32a8e1cb323b230b0c228dbee313647892bf4>
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commit 2ec32a8e1cb323b230b0c228dbee31__3647892bf4
Author: Iavor S. Diatchki <diatc...@galois.com
<mailto:diatc...@galois.com>>
Date: Thu Nov 29 17:14:48 2012 -0800
Add ":info!" to GHCi. This shows all instances without
filtering first.
The default behavior of :info is to show only those
instances of
for a type, where all relevant type constructor names are
in scope.
This keeps down the number of instances shown to the user.
In some cases, it is nice to be able to see all instances
for a type.
This patch implements this with the :info! command.
Was there some discussion about this? The last I remember was this:
http://hackage.haskell.org/__trac/ghc/ticket/5998
<http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/5998>
where we decided not to implement this because it is essentially a
random UI: the behaviour can't be described sensibly because it
depends on which interface files GHC happens to have seen so far.
There's also this:
http://hackage.haskell.org/__trac/ghc/ticket/3080
<http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/3080>
which looks like a duplicate (I just closed it).
Cheers,
Simon
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