"If you think the cable landings in Va/Md are coincidental, you are smoking something I've run out of. Its all recorded. I'm sure the archiving and database groups in Ft. Meade will get a chuckle out of your "the right to" idioms."
Well, I don't actually believe it's all recorded. As I've attempted to explain previously, "they" almost certainly have risk models in place. When several variables twinkle enough (eg, origination area, IP address, presence of crypto...) some rule fires and then diverts a copy into the WASP'S Nest. There's probably some kind of key word search that either diverts the copy into storage or into the short list for an analyst to peek it.
-TD
From: "Major Variola (ret)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Email tapping by ISPs, forwarder addresses, and crypto proxies
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 21:40:29 -0700
At 02:47 PM 7/6/04 -0700, Hal Finney wrote: >> Messages in storage have much lower judicial protection than messages in >> transit. (This does not have much technical merit, in the current >> atmosphere of "damn the laws - there are terrorists around the corner", >> but can be seen as a nice little potential benefit.)
Ie zero.
>One thing I haven't understood in all the commentary is whether law >enforcment still needs a warrant to access emails stored in this way. >Apparently the ISP can read them without any notice or liability, but >what about the police?
You are state meat, whether 5150'd or not.
>Also, what if you run your own mail spool, so the email is never stored
>at the ISP, it just passes through the routers controlled by the ISP >(just like it passed through a dozen other routers on the internet). >Does this give the ISP (and all the other router owners) the right to >read your email? I don't think so, it seems like that would definitely
>cross over the line from "mail in storage" to "mail in transit".
If you think the cable landings in Va/Md are coincidental, you are smoking something I've run out of. Its all recorded. I'm sure the archiving and database groups in Ft. Meade will get a chuckle out of your "the right to" idioms.
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