Frog wrote: > > now if you rephrase the question to "how many deaths have resulted from > > the activities of ..." it becomes a lot more interesting. for starters, > > Not really. It's an entirely different question. I've never directly > killed anyone. I also don't give change to any of the numerous homeless > people around here. A lot of them die, especially in the winter. One > could argue that some of their deaths "have resulted" from my not giving > them change. So what? neither do I and I don't feel especially guilty about it. but I think this is an entirely different thing. > > people die because companies save money in safety precautions. extreme > > People die for all kinds of reasons. You can choke to death on a plastic > bag. Are plastic bag manufacturers "sav[ing] money in safety > precautions"? Maybe, but I'd rather not have a wet newspaper. I don't think this is a black-and-white issue. surely a company should take some precautions, but on the other hand it's also a bit ridiculous to expect perfect security, much less to expect someone (company or not) to protect your from your own stupidity.