On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:26 PM, Justin wrote:

Tim May (2004-01-02 02:42Z) wrote:

Bob, a crack addict collecting "disability" or welfare or other
government freebies, works 0% of his time for the government/society.
("Dat not true. I gots to stands in line to get my check increased!")

Do those who have previously been in the workforce, in your opinion, have the right to reclaim through welfare any amount up to that they've paid through taxes to the entity providing welfare/unemployment? Or is all unemployment money Pluto's fruit?


No, as there is no "fund" that this money is in. Once taxes are paid in, the money has gone out to crack addicts, Halliburton, welfare whores (excuse me, "hoes"), foreign dictators like Mubarek and Sharon, and so on.


In fact, the estimated overall debt is something like $30-40 trillion. I've outlined how this number is arrived at a few times in the past. As there are about 100 million tax filers in the U.S.--the other 175 million being children, spouses, prisoners, welfare recipients, illegal aliens, non-filers, etc.--a simple calculation shows the average indebtedness per tax filer is around $300,000 or more. This is far, far beyond what the average household owns in total. Because the U.S. has been "charging it" for the past 40 years. Quibblers will say we can reduce this indebtedness by selling off government-owned lands, which would be a good start. Or be taxing corporations more, but this still ends up with the individual tax filers, ultimately. Or by devaluing the dollar dramatically, which is the likeliest strategy the kleptocrats will follow, after gettting enough advance warning to get their own assets out of dollar-denominated vehicles.

So, you see, there IS NO FUND one can withdraw money from.

Anyone claiming new welfare benefits requires even more thefts from those still working.

Just because money was stolen from you doesn't give you any right to steal from me.


--Tim May




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