On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 17:45, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) <vanmeeu...@kolabsys.com> wrote: > Ondřej Surý wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 17:59, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) >> >> <vanmeeu...@kolabsys.com> wrote: >> > Thomas Jarosch wrote: >> >> Hi Дилян, >> >> >> >> here's some feedback about your build system question. >> >> Note: I'm not one of the cyrus core developers. >> >> >> >> > if I rewrite the build system of Cyrus imap 2.4(.10) to use Automake >> >> > to generate the Makefile.in-files, will the patch be accepted in >> >> > reasonable time in git/master? >> >> >> >> Have you considered alternatives to GNU Autotools? >> >> >> >> We have experience with GNU Autotools in our company projects as well as >> >> open source projects for several years now. >> >> >> >> We have found that it has several shortcomings: >> >> >> >> 1. Autotools version conflicts >> >> >> >> You can compile a released source package without any Autotools on your >> >> system. But as soon as you >> >> >> >> a) want to develop >> >> b) want to install a patch which modifies the build system (like a new >> >> path to a library, something that adds a new file,...). This is often >> >> happens as part of packaging for .rpm or .deb. >> >> >> >> you need Autotools on your machine. If the Autotools version on your >> >> machine and the one used to build the release are not compatible you >> >> can't build. >> >> >> >> Installing a different Autotools version on a given distribution without >> >> breaking something or fixing a huge list of dependency problems is >> >> nearly impossible. I have experience with this... >> > >> > I have quite the experience with .rpm and .deb building myself as well, >> > and while I agree autotools *can* be problematic at times, I recon the >> > Linux distributions are not the biggest of problems - the culprit, I >> > think, is with the number of custom / site-specific builds out there, >> > ranging from Sun Solaris to FreeBSD and who knows what versions of >> > autotools are on these systems. >> >> With my fancy debian maintainer hat on - I agree, we learnt how to cope >> with different versions of autotools, that's the minor thing. >> >> I personally I would love to have cyrus projects automakized. It's much >> easy to mangle :). >> > > Between the two of us, Debian and Fedora maintainers, are we both saying "yes > please, no objections"?
I am even saying: "Yes, please, no objections. I will send patches." O. -- Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org>