On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Stefan Behnel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dag Sverre Seljebotn, 17.11.2010 11:39:
>> On 11/17/2010 11:33 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2010 09:59 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>>>> So, I've been thinking about this, and one of the reasons we're using
>>>> the current setup is that it requires very little administration from
>>>> me, as I am essentially leaching of the sagemath.org infrastructure.
>>>> Moving things to boxen would be a bit more administration on our part,
>>>> but still not too bad, and I know William is a happy enough Cython
>>>> user to be fine with continuing to host us :). However, I'm wondering
>>>> if this would be a ripe occasion to making the leap to something like
>>>> http://code.google.com. Currently, our infrastructure consists of
>>>>
>>>> 1. The web site
>>>> 2. Trac
>>>> 3. Wiki
>>>> 4. Repositories
>>>> 5. Buildbot
>>>> 6. Mailing lists
>>>>
>>>> Currently we're hosting 1-5, and 6 is being hosted by codespeak.net
>>>> (for cython-dev) and google (for cython-users). I think it may be
>>>> worth considering moving 2-4 elsewhere, as there is little loss and
>>>> they are the higher-maintenance (from an administrative point of view)
>>>> items, and features such as code review tools would be nice to have as
>>>> well.
>
> I see the serious advantage of simplifying the access to bug tracker, wiki,
> etc. for new users.

And for us old-timers too :)

> However, regarding the "little loss", does anyone have experience in
> migrating trac tickets to a different tracker? There's a lot of information
> in the tracker that I don't want to loose, and I wouldn't like to look at
> two trackers to figure out if a bug has been reported.

+1, this was one of my criteria too (hence the link to
http://www.dataliberation.org/google/code-project-hosting , which I
consider a critical part being open). However, the unfortunate
geographic limitations seem to be a blocker. It looks like GitHub and
BitBucket have APIs for importing/exporting issues as well, so we'd
certainly migrate all our data. The wikis for all are stored in a DVCS
repository, which is nice. Wiki history isn't as important, but I'd
see if it wasn't too hard to scrape/grab.

>> Forgetting about the git aspect for a moment, I'm strongly in favor of a
>> DVCS-centered site. That is, +1 to bitbucket, github, gitorious, ++, and
>> -1 to SourceForge, Google Code, etc.

For sure. If Google Code didn't support the DVCS "click to clone"
model I wouldn't have considered it.

> I guess it's bitbucket then? Switching the VCS just because of a project
> hosting site sounds like more trouble than I'm currently after.

The biggest drawback of bitbucket is the lack of integrated code
review--if we're moving projects we might as well move to something
that's a step up in this area. I would be happy switching to Git to
use GitHub--my primary issue with it compared to mercurial is the
steep(er) learning curve, but this is less of an issue for a rather
technical project like ours.

- Robert
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