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Re: Megilah 007: Shmuel's proof of Divine consent

Yitzchok Adlerstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:

>>The reasoning seems a bit circular.  The only reason to assume that the 
>>phrase keemu v'kiblu implies Heavenly confirmation of human acceptance is 
>>that the pasuk requires some sort of derasha.  But the pasuk only requires a 
>>derasha if in fact it was written by ruach hakodesh, the very notion that 
>>Shmuel is trying to prove.<<

The Kollel replied:
>>Even if the Megilah was not written (or spoken) with Ru'ach ha'Kodesh, it was 
>>certainly composed with Chochmah.<< 

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Alex Lebovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> comments:

These words *kiymu vekiblu* would require explanation even if they weren't 
written by Ruach Hakodesh, and were meant to be taken only literally, for the 
simple reason that *kiymu* is not possible without first *kiblu*. They are 
similar to the words of *Naaseh Venishma*. And of course words written even 
without Ruach Hakodesh have to make sense as Rabbi Kornfeld states.

Kol Tuv 
Alex Lebovits 


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