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THE DAFYOMI DISCUSSION LIST brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf of Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE TO DISCUSS THE DAF WITH THE KOLLEL] ________________________________________________________________ Re: Megilah 007: Shmuel's proof of Divine consent Yitzchok Adlerstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked: >>The reasoning seems a bit circular. The only reason to assume that the >>phrase keemu v'kiblu implies Heavenly confirmation of human acceptance is >>that the pasuk requires some sort of derasha. But the pasuk only requires a >>derasha if in fact it was written by ruach hakodesh, the very notion that >>Shmuel is trying to prove.<< The Kollel replied: >>Even if the Megilah was not written (or spoken) with Ru'ach ha'Kodesh, it was >>certainly composed with Chochmah.<< --- Alex Lebovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> comments: These words *kiymu vekiblu* would require explanation even if they weren't written by Ruach Hakodesh, and were meant to be taken only literally, for the simple reason that *kiymu* is not possible without first *kiblu*. They are similar to the words of *Naaseh Venishma*. And of course words written even without Ruach Hakodesh have to make sense as Rabbi Kornfeld states. Kol Tuv Alex Lebovits >>><><><>><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><<< The *D*AFYOMI *A*DVANCEMENT *F*ORUM, brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf Write to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit us at http://www.dafyomi.co.il Fax(US):(206) 202-0323; Fax(Isr): (02) 591-6024; Tel(Isr): (02) 651-5004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.1/691 - Release Date: 2/17/2007 5:06 PM _______________________________________________ Daf-discuss mailing list Daf-discuss@shemayisrael.co.il http://mailman.shemayisrael.com/mailman/listinfo/daf-discuss_shemayisrael.co.il