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General: Meat and Milk
Yossi Loewy asked:
If one eats less thank a kezayis of meat and then wants to eat a milchig neal,
is it allowed. (after rinsing his mouth)
Thank You very much!
Have a wonderful Shabbos!
Yossi Loewy
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The Kollel replies:
First of all, it must be stressed that the purpose of Kollel Iyun Hadaf is by
no means to answer practical Halchic questions and all practical questions
should be addressed to a competent local Rabbi.
However I did consult a leading Halachic authority in Yerushalayim about this
question, and he answered that if one eats half a Kezayis of meat one may not
eat milchig afterwards merely by relying on rinsing one's mouth, but one has to
wait 6 hours in just the same way as when one eats a full Kezayis of meat.
One can cite a support for this from the Shulchan Aruch YD 89:1 that if someone
chews meat to make it easier for a young child to eat it, he must wait 6 hours
even though he did not swallow the meat at all. The TAZ #1 writes that this is
because of the meat stuck between the teeth. Even though presumably there is
less than a Kezayis of meat stuck between the teeth, one is still required to
wait 6 hours.
I understand that behind your question lies the thinking that "Chatzi Shiur" -
"half the amount" - is more lenient because it is not liable for lashes. (In
fact this argument is not so strong because the Halachah follows Rebbi Yochanan
in the Yoma 73b that even though it is exempt from Malkus nevertheless it still
is a d'Oraisa prohibition). However the aforementioned Halachic authority
pointed out that in fact our case is not an example of Chatzi Shiur anyway but
is more severe. This is because the Gemara in Chulin 108b states that if one
cooked up half a Kezayis of meat with half a Kezayis of milk one receives
lashes for eating the result. Therefore in your case even if someone ate less
than a Kezayis of meat, if he subsequently ate enough cheese to combine in
total to a Kezayis, this would potentially involve Malkus if they had been
cooked together (see Rashi Chulin 104b DH Matkif that the d'Oraisa prohibition
is only if they were cooked together but mid'Rabanan they are !
forbid
den even if cold, and even if eaten one after the other). Therefore this is not
an example of Chatzi Shiur, but rather of a complete Shiur.
KOL TUV
D. Bloom
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