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THE DAFYOMI DISCUSSION LIST brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf of Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE TO DISCUSS THE DAF WITH THE KOLLEL] ________________________________________________________________ Bava Basra 023: Istenis Gershon Dubin asked: We find that despite the fact that ein chazaka lenizakin is limited to certain nizakin, still Rav Papa could claim to be an istenis and therefore no chazaka could be claimed against him. How could someone else's chazaka be dependent on his fussiness? PS On the answers to daf 22a #4, there is a question mixed in. Gershon Dubin, Brooklyn NY USA ---------------------------------------------- The Kollel replies: The rationale behind Chezkas Nezakin is that since the Nizak was not Mocheh, we see that he accepts the Hezek. There is a Machlokes Rishonim if his silence is proof that he sold it, or proof that he was Mochel. In any event, Kutra and Bais ha'Kisei are not a Chazakah, for we say that the Nizak was mistaken in his belief that he could tolerate them and it is a Mekach Ta'us. So, too, in the case of an Istenis, we say that although he thought he could tolerate it, he was mistaken, and therefore there is no Chazakah. D. Zupnik To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this text in the body of the message: unsubscribe daf-discuss