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Chulin 025: Dependent on the times

Barry Robinson asked:

Kvod HaRosh Kollel Rav Kornfeld, shlit"a

At the top of Chulin 25b, the Gemara distinguishes between unfinished
wooden utensils (which are MeKabel Tumah) and unfinished metal utensils
which are not MeKabel Tumah) - Rav Yochanan says that metal utensils are
made for Kavod and Rav Nachman says that metal utensils are more expensive.
The Gemara adds that they would disagree regarding bone utensils.

The question that was bothering our Daf Yomi shiur is that it seems that
these Halachos are dependent on the times.  What would happen to the
Halacha if, for example, wooden utensils became more expensive or more
Kovedik than metal utensils?  Would the Halachos regarding the Tumah of
unfinished vessels change accordingly?

Thank you for your tremendous work on behalf of Klal Yisroel. We eagerly
await your response.

Barry Robinson
Daf Yomi Shiur
Cong. Or Torah
Skokie, Illinois, USA

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The Kollel replies:

See Aruch ha'Shulchan, Taharos 191:5, who deals with this issue. He learns
from the Mishnah in Kelim (12) that a Kli Etz that is expensive will need
Gemar Melachah as well, according to Rav Nachman. However, most Mefarshim
say that the Halachah follows Rebbi Yochanan; see Kesef Mishneh, Hilchos
Kelim 5:1. See also Sidrei Taharos, Kelim 12:8.

D. Zupnik

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