That's not true.  You can have one persistant connection and reuse that for all 
requests, it'll just take away from having to connect/disconnect all the time.  No one 
said you have to open 40 different connections and pay for 40 concurrent licenses.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Maragakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:42 PM
> To: Tim Bunce; Dave Mullen - Marikina CGI
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: DBI Module.
> 
> 
> Mr Bunce, 
> 
> Not all of the rest of the world is using persistent database 
> connections.
> 
> There is a good reason not to use persistent database 
> connections, it is database licensing.
> 
> Licensing may not be an issue with mysql but it is an issue 
> with commercial databases.
> 
> I use Informix with hundreds of users accessing the database 
> for extremely short queries from a GUI. I cannot afford to 
> have them connected constantly, I would have to spent 
> $100,000 per server in licensing. Having them connect and 
> disconnect for every query has cost me about $3,000 per 
> server using concurrent user licensing.
> 
> Even in the case of mysql you can have applications (web 
> access to a database for example) that can only be 
> implemented with non persistent connections.
> 
> I have not experienced any connection delays like Mr Mullen 
> describes, as a matter of fact I am very satisfied with the 
> connection times (they average less than 1ms on a 2.4GHz dual 
> CPU Xeon on Linux) but I do have a problem with the 
> discconnect statements, they consistently take about 1 
> second. This is generaly not an issue since the users have to 
> proccess the information after it is returned to them on the 
> GUI but I occasionaly get a complaint.
> 
> Connect/disconnect times are important and they should be 
> given due consideration.
> 
> By the way, since this is my first posting to this group I 
> would like to thank you for all your work on the Perl 
> database interfaces, they are extremely valuable tools.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Terry Maragakis
> Database Administrator
> The Inteq Group Inc. 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Bunce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:27 AM
> To: Dave Mullen - Marikina CGI
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: DBI Module.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 03:19:15PM +0200, Dave Mullen - 
> Marikina CGI wrote:
> > Dear Mr Bunce,
> > 
> > We are using perl 5.005 and mysql 3.23 on a Linux Redhat 7.2 system.
> > 
> > We are trying to implement a better "timeout" for the DBI 
> connections, as
> > the one incorporated in the DBI module only has a 
> granularity of seconds.
> > 
> > We don't use persistent connections or mod-perl, so 
> connection time is an
> > important factor for us, and we wish to avoid excessive 
> times, as this
> > affects our server performance.
> 
> So why not use persistent connections or mod-perl like the 
> rest of the world?
> 
> > Herewith is the test script, which basically wraps the 
> connection in an eval
> > block, and the Time::HiRes "alarm" will cause the eval to 
> die after 10ms.
> 
> > This script perfomed well over a 24 hour period, our only 
> concern is that
> > sometimes we recorded the following error message during 
> the "eval cleanup"
> > 
> > (in cleanup) dbih_getcom handle DBI::db=HASH(0x8258a28) is 
> not a DBI handle
> > (has no magic)
> > 
> > Obviously, the alarm triggers and the eval block dies at 
> some point during
> > the creation of the DBI object, our concern is that this 
> "eval cleanup
> > failure" may be leaving resources behind on the system ???
> 
> Probably.
> 
> > Your comments please.
> 
> Don't do it. Honestly. It's not reliable and can't be made reliable.
> Search the web for discussions of perl and signals. Even if you got
> it to work (and appear reliable) it'll probably break when you
> upgrade perl to a later one that has "safe signals". Here be dragons.
> 
> The rest of the world uses persistent connections or mod-perl 
> for a reason.
> 
> Tim.
> 

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