I also looked in /var/log, and there are a lot of log folders there, and I looked in speech-dispatcher, and there was nothing in that folder. Maybe someone can suggest a log file to look for. Here's a LS of what is in /var/log:
alternatives.log apt auth.log boot.log boot.log.1 btmp cups daemon.log debug dpkg.log faillog fontconfig.log gdm3 installer journal kern.log lastlog messages popularity-contest popularity-contest.0 popularity-contest.gpg private runit speech-dispatcher syslog unattended-upgrades user.log wtmp ----- Original Message ----- From: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email> To: "Jason White" <ja...@jasonjgw.net> Cc: <debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2022 4:54 PM Subject: Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting Here's a snippet from a journal.txt I made of the output, just involving today, and around Orca. It mentions something about Orca, and I don't know what it is pointing to: The segment is: [843]: Run “orca --replace” to replace that process with a new one. snippet below: ted service 'org.a11y.Bus' Dec 10 16:14:04 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Accessibility services bus. Dec 10 16:14:04 asus701 at-spi-bus-launcher[725]: dbus-daemon[725]: Activating service name='org.a11y.atspi.Registry' requested by ':1.1' (uid=1000 pid=708 comm="/usr/libexec/ibus-ui-gtk3 ") Dec 10 16:14:04 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop' unit='xdg-desktop-portal.service' requested by ':1.28' (uid=1000 pid=709 comm="/usr/libexec/ibus-extension-gtk3 ") Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting Portal service... Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 at-spi-bus-launcher[725]: dbus-daemon[725]: Successfully activated service 'org.a11y.atspi.Registry' Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 at-spi-bus-launcher[736]: SpiRegistry daemon is running with well-known name - org.a11y.atspi.Registry Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.portal.Documents' unit='xdg-document-portal.service' requested by ':1.31' (uid=1000 pid=739 comm="/usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal ") Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting flatpak document portal service... Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.impl.portal.PermissionStore' unit='xdg-permission-store.service' requested by ':1.32' (uid=1000 pid=745 comm="/usr/libexec/xdg-document-portal ") Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting sandboxed app permission store... Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.impl.portal.PermissionStore' Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 systemd[481]: Started sandboxed app permission store. Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.portal.Documents' Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 systemd[481]: Started flatpak document portal service. Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gtk' unit='xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.service' requested by ':1.31' (uid=1000 pid=739 comm="/usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal ") Dec 10 16:14:05 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting Portal service (GTK+/GNOME implementation)... Dec 10 16:14:06 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating service name='ca.desrt.dconf' requested by ':1.26' (uid=1000 pid=590 comm="x-session-manager ") Dec 10 16:14:06 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'ca.desrt.dconf' Dec 10 16:14:06 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[590]: x-session-manager[590]: WARNING: Unable to find provider '' of required component 'dock' Dec 10 16:14:06 asus701 x-session-manager[590]: WARNING: Unable to find provider '' of required component 'dock' Dec 10 16:14:07 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[770]: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh Dec 10 16:14:07 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gtk' Dec 10 16:14:07 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Portal service (GTK+/GNOME implementation). Dec 10 16:14:08 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop' Dec 10 16:14:08 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Portal service. Dec 10 16:14:12 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[797]: Window manager warning: Log level 128: unsetenv() is not thread-safe and should not be used after threads are created Dec 10 16:14:19 asus701 gnome-keyring-daemon[508]: The PKCS#11 component was already initialized Dec 10 16:14:19 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[835]: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh Dec 10 16:14:20 asus701 gnome-keyring-daemon[508]: The SSH agent was already initialized Dec 10 16:14:20 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[851]: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh Dec 10 16:14:20 asus701 caja[826]: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.gnome.SessionManager.AlreadyRegistered: Unable to register client Dec 10 16:14:20 asus701 gnome-keyring-daemon[508]: The Secret Service was already initialized Dec 10 16:14:20 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[858]: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh Dec 10 16:14:22 asus701 pulseaudio[500]: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. Dec 10 16:14:25 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating service name='org.mate.panel.applet.WnckletFactory' requested by ':1.41' (uid=1000 pid=811 comm="mate-panel ") Dec 10 16:14:25 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating service name='org.mate.panel.applet.ClockAppletFactory' requested by ':1.41' (uid=1000 pid=811 comm="mate-panel ") Dec 10 16:14:25 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating service name='org.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory' requested by ':1.41' (uid=1000 pid=811 comm="mate-panel ") Dec 10 16:14:26 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[826]: Initializing caja-image-converter extension Dec 10 16:14:28 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.mate.panel.applet.WnckletFactory' Dec 10 16:14:28 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.mate.panel.applet.NotificationAreaAppletFactory' Dec 10 16:14:28 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources5' unit='evolution-source-registry.service' requested by ':1.54' (uid=1000 pid=845 comm="/usr/libexec/evolution-data-server/evolution-alarm") Dec 10 16:14:29 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting Evolution source registry... Dec 10 16:14:31 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.mate.panel.applet.ClockAppletFactory' Dec 10 16:14:36 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources5' Dec 10 16:14:36 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Evolution source registry. Dec 10 16:14:38 asus701 xdg-desktop-por[739]: Failed to get application states: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window list Dec 10 16:14:42 asus701 mate-power-mana[844]: gdk_window_thaw_toplevel_updates: assertion 'window->update_and_descendants_freeze_count > 0' failed Dec 10 16:14:45 asus701 clock-applet[877]: Negative content width -7 (allocation 1, extents 4x4) while allocating gadget (node button, owner GtkToggleButton) Dec 10 16:14:47 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[826]: Initializing caja-open-terminal extension Dec 10 16:14:51 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[826]: RuntimeError: object at 0xb0053248 of type RenameMenu is not initialized Dec 10 16:14:57 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[839]: blueman-applet 16.14.57 WARNING PluginManager:148 __load_plugin: Not loading PPPSupport because its conflict has higher priority Dec 10 16:14:57 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating via systemd: service name='org.blueman.Applet' unit='blueman-applet.service' requested by ':1.62' (uid=1000 pid=932 comm="/usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/blueman-tray ") Dec 10 16:14:58 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.blueman.Applet' Dec 10 16:14:58 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[839]: blueman-applet 16.14.57 WARNING PluginManager:148 __load_plugin: Not loading DhcpClient because its conflict has higher priority Dec 10 16:14:58 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating via systemd: service name='org.bluez.obex' unit='obex.service' requested by ':1.59' (uid=1000 pid=839 comm="/usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/blueman-applet ") Dec 10 16:14:58 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting Bluetooth management applet... Dec 10 16:15:04 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[843]: Another screen reader process is already running for this session. Dec 10 16:15:04 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[843]: Run “orca --replace” to replace that process with a new one. Dec 10 16:14:58 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Bluetooth management applet. Dec 10 16:14:59 asus701 obexd[963]: OBEX daemon 5.55 Dec 10 16:15:03 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting Bluetooth OBEX service... Dec 10 16:14:59 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.bluez.obex' Dec 10 16:15:03 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Bluetooth OBEX service. Dec 10 16:15:06 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.Metadata' unit='gvfs-metadata.service' requested by ':1.43' (uid=1000 pid=826 comm="/usr/bin/caja ") Dec 10 16:15:06 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting Virtual filesystem metadata service... Dec 10 16:15:07 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.Metadata' Dec 10 16:15:07 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Virtual filesystem metadata service. Dec 10 16:15:09 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Calendar8' unit='evolution-calendar-factory.service' requested by ':1.54' (uid=1000 pid=845 comm="/usr/libexec/evolution-data-server/evolution-alarm") Dec 10 16:15:10 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting Evolution calendar service... Dec 10 16:15:10 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[957]: blueman-tray version 2.1.4 starting Dec 10 16:15:10 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[957]: There is an instance already running Dec 10 16:15:15 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[834]: 16:15:15.223892 - TIMEOUT: something has hung. Aborting. Dec 10 16:15:17 asus701 blueman-applet[962]: blueman-applet version 2.1.4 starting Dec 10 16:15:17 asus701 blueman-applet[962]: There is an instance already running Dec 10 16:15:18 asus701 systemd[481]: blueman-applet.service: Succeeded. Dec 10 16:15:18 asus701 systemd[481]: blueman-applet.service: Consumed 1.620s CPU time. Dec 10 16:15:18 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Calendar8' Dec 10 16:15:18 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Evolution calendar service. Dec 10 16:15:18 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook10' unit='evolution-addressbook-factory.service' requested by ':1.66' (uid=1000 pid=992 comm="/usr/libexec/evolution-calendar-factory ") Dec 10 16:15:18 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting Evolution address book service... Dec 10 16:15:19 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook10' Dec 10 16:15:19 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Evolution address book service. Dec 10 16:15:23 asus701 systemd[481]: tracker-extract.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. Dec 10 16:15:23 asus701 systemd[481]: tracker-miner-fs.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. Dec 10 16:15:23 asus701 /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[839]: blueman-applet 16.15.23 WARNING DiscvManager:109 update_menuitems: warning: Adapter is None Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: tracker-miner-fs.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: Failed to start Tracker file system data miner. Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: tracker-extract.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: Failed to start Tracker metadata extractor. Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: Reached target Main User Target. Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: Startup finished in 1min 35.172s. Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: tracker-miner-fs.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 1. Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: tracker-extract.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 1. Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: Stopped Tracker metadata extractor. Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting Tracker metadata extractor... Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: Stopped Tracker file system data miner. Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting Tracker file system data miner... Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 tracker-extract[1124]: Set scheduler policy to SCHED_IDLE Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 tracker-miner-f[1125]: Set scheduler policy to SCHED_IDLE Dec 10 16:15:25 asus701 tracker-miner-f[1125]: Setting priority nice level to 19 Dec 10 16:15:26 asus701 tracker-extract[1124]: Setting priority nice level to 19 Dec 10 16:15:29 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.Tracker1' unit='tracker-store.service' requested by ':1.69' (uid=1000 pid=1125 comm="/usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs ") Dec 10 16:15:29 asus701 systemd[481]: Starting Tracker metadata database store and lookup manager... Dec 10 16:15:29 asus701 dbus-daemon[525]: [session uid=1000 pid=525] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.Tracker1' Dec 10 16:15:29 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Tracker metadata database store and lookup manager. Dec 10 16:15:29 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Tracker file system data miner. Dec 10 16:15:31 asus701 systemd[481]: Started Tracker metadata extractor. Dec 10 16:15:41 asus701 systemd[481]: tracker-extract.service: Succeeded. Dec 10 16:15:41 asus701 systemd[481]: tracker-extract.service: Consumed 1.245s CPU time. Dec 10 16:16:01 asus701 tracker-store[1144]: OK Dec 10 16:16:01 asus701 systemd[481]: tracker-store.service: Succeeded. Dec 10 16:16:01 asus701 systemd[481]: tracker-store.service: Consumed 1.000s CPU time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason White" <ja...@jasonjgw.net> To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2022 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Orca Isn't Autostarting On 11/12/22 09:09, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > Which logs should I look, and where? Run journalctl and have a look. > Also, how do I check running services? ps -ef will show you the list. You can use pgrep (e.g., "pgrep orca") to search for specific processes. Also, please reply via the mailing list so that everyone can contribute to the discussion. You sent your reply to me only, or so it appears.