On Jul 21, 2012, at 04:10, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Steve McIntyre <st...@einval.com> wrote: > >> I'm hoping to get AArch64 bootstrapped and ready for release in Debian >> by Wheezy+1, which I acknowledge will take a lot of work in a >> comparatively short space of time. We will need to cross-bootstrap as >> much as possible, verifying things in the model. Existing bootstrap >> work done by Wookey and co. will help a lot here. > > > @begin awkward embarrassing moment, feel free to gloss over.... > i also made some recommendations and offered to knock together a build > infrastructure which would have augmented the existing debian build > system, (which would have leveraged the best free software > cross-compiling and qemu-compile-enabled toolchain that there is, and > made it debian-aware)
I'm assuming you're talking about Yocto/OE/bitbake/poky -- can you confirm? > but the recommendations were, sadly, viewed as - > once again - "oo the fuck's this lkcl telling us what the fuck to do, > we've been doing this for years, oo der fuck does ee fink ee is, > trying to take over debian, let's vilify him, deliberately > misunderstand what he's saying as much as we can as often as we can, > make him look a fool so we look good and he'll go away ahhh that's > better: we can go back to doing it our way, now, and stay in control > yessss" rather than being viewed as what they were offered as: an > augmentation of and an enhancement of the existing debian build > system, offered *without* prejudice and entirely in good faith. Pejorative poetry aside, I think there are some reasonable choices made by Debian with regards to the build system, particularly building directly on the hardware. Is there a case to be made that using qemu and cross-compiling is somehow better? What are the trade offs? Regards, Jeremiah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/0b0089ec-5cc3-4bce-aee9-a2eaba676...@jeremiahfoster.com
