On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 12:56:45PM +0100, Michel Briand wrote:
> Andreas Henriksson <andr...@fatal.se> - Mon, 5 Nov 2012 09:24:55 +0100
[...]
> >While there are several nice improvements in the 0.16 series,
> >I definitely would not agree that 0.14 is unusable.
> 
> The sort order of all music album is alphabetical and makes this
> program definitely "unusable" for playing music.

I still disagree with you. A couple of reasons:

There are many common uses-cases which does not involve
music playing at all.

While playing a music album in track order might be
a good default, not everyone wants to do that....
Since the music somehow plays still, I don't see it as
unusable - just inconvenient.

> 
> >I've made 0.16 packages available in experimental but I haven't
> >had much time on working at making them release quality yet.
> 
> What is "release quality" ? How can I help, what do you need, to make
> them release quality ?

There's some indication that the packaged software actually works
for some usecase.
(For example the 0.16 version ubuntu initially where going to ship
in their most recent release was severly broken - fortunately caught
and fixed in time before the release.)

The package doesn't miss installing files from the upstream
build system. (Which is currently the case.)

And I bet if/when we start looking closer we'll find more issues.
So what you can help out with is basically looking/hunting for
issues and fixing them. Just by looking briefly I've already
identified issues exists and I'm pretty sure there are more.
Your help is very welcome.

> 
> >Also, this is not up to me.... unless you can convince the
> >release team - this will not happen for wheezy.
> >You're more then welcome to help out creating backports for wheeezy.
> >I'm sure there will be alot more stuff that are cool in the 0.18 and
> >future series as well which wheezy users will want to use....
> 
> The very need of backport is that packages are obsolete when stable
> is released. This is the other side of the coin.

You need to insert "for *me*" in the above sentence for it to be
true. There are alot of users who are perfectly happy users of
the current package which will be upset if something is broken
for them now.

> 
> I can help to make this not to happen for rygel :).

You're joining the party very late, so I doubt you can but would be
very happy if you could prove me wrong on that.

> 
> Regards,
> Michel
> 

-- 
Andreas Henriksson


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