Hey Margarita.

On Fri, 2016-05-27 at 20:44 +0000, Margarita Manterola wrote:
> I tested gtk3-nocsed as it currently is in stretch and the result 
> wasn't very nice.
Well there are some bugs in it, which are to be fixed in the next
uploads which is going to happen pretty soon.

But I think your judgement is a bit harsh, isn't it?



>  I'm not sure what it is supposed to do, but I 
> was sort of expecting a File/Edit/View menu.  Instead, what I got 
> was a window title on top of the CSD window title and it really 
> didn't look good to me.
> 
> Is this how it's supposed to look?

Well, the CSDs are IMHO a highly questionable "feature" and not only
completely useless for desktops (they might have some value on small-
screen devices like smart phones) and the way upstream implemented it
or better said, the way upstream projects that use CSDs implemented it
is the typical GNOME hostile way: not obeying other peoples needs, not
being compatible to long proven standards and concepts.

So AFAIU, there is no real automatic way of getting back proper old
looks (i.e. wit menus, etc. as you wished)... and unless the respective
projects upstream supports both modes (CSD / non-CSD) as e.g. gnome-
terminal seems to do (at least so far),... the results we get from
gtk3-nocsd is the best one can have.

It's not necessarily perfect, but that's rather the fault of CSDs, less
of gtk3-nocsd.... and at least it gives people back proper window
decorations.
So IMHO, it's still pretty valuable for non GNOME3 users.


> > I've CCed, Christian, the gtk3-nocsd maintainer (and as it seems
> > most active upstream dev)...perhaps he has some ideas to share
> > about this one.
> 
> You don't seem to have done this.

mhh.. strange... I though I'd have added him in reportbug.
CCing him again now, just in case he's interested.


Cheers,
Chris.

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