Hi, My name is Roman, and I am the developer of the Valentina project.
> Seamly2D is a fork of Valentina. Technically it is not true. I have left the original project. Thus, current Valentina is a fork of what is left of Valentina after rename. > well, compared to valentina it seems to have way more pull requests and is at least very responsive to requests. Technically this may be true. Don't follow their code base anymore. But I know better than most what it takes to add a really significant change. I don't know what do you mean by "very responsive to requests" when they cannot deliver any significant feature. How they can cover any need of pattern maker except of kind words? If low number of PRs and slow progress was caused by me back then, then why do we have this bug report? Something is not right here. Do you know a list of changes to Valentina since the fork? Can you compare two lists for the projects? Do you think some small PRs can beat a number of my changes? > I think keeping one of them in Debian is the better option. Before doing this, please check if the packages will be compatible. I mean, there is a chance we still use the same names of libraries. I don't care much about versions of internal libraries. Thus, S2D can rely on the same library name, but on API/ABI level they will not be compatible with Valentina. > Any idea why there is a fork at all? Susan and I have different points of view on how to develop the project. Plus there must be only one leader. I am more than happy that I have made a fork. > Seems to me that Seamly2D is similarly a one-woman-show - difference (disregarding sexes) being that one is good with code and the other is good with words and people. I must admit that she is a very passionate woman in what she does. PR is her strong side, not mine. I have realized that trying to explain people that S2D is "dead" without developers is pointless for people who don't understand the importance of developers and expertise. They see good people around with promises of a bright future. How long you can lie to people like this? Well quite long, up to 4 years. My solution? Don't waist time on talking. Show them real progress and real pattern making application. > I was hoping that the strong community of Seamly2D would lead to more sample documents than the relatively few shipped with Valentina I have ideas why people are not willing to share their patterns. Pattern makers at all are very far from open source and participating in it. They mostly care about making patterns and asking for features. A complete separate world to what I had expected. > But I might be wrong. Or maybe code is largely "done" and only _need_ smaller polishing. What? No! Code is far from "done". S2D just struggled to find a developer. It would be interesting to see how they would manage to port code to Qt 6. :) > Was probably easy as the valentina-project page points to seamly now, which is rather sad. Susan controlled a forum and the project web page. No way she would give me opportunity to win in PR war. :D > I also gave that a try: and they are not compatible anymore, although > seamly still says valentina format. Which is.. stupid. This is something new for me. I did not have reports from users. Don't plan to fix, though. > "Susan Spencer got the valentina-project.org domain name and the website as part of the separation deal." It was a divorce. I was a gentleman and left my "wife" a house, a car, our dog and our bugs. But not my expertise and my name. - Roman
