Hi, I looked into haveged a while back because I ran into some issue. (Don't remember exactly what.)
Apparently, the upstream systemd-service contains a conditional to only start on old kernels. The strategies that haveged performed are apparently incorporated into the kernel. That makes haveged an optional "extra" contribution to entropy, but no longer necessary. A issue on either haveged's github or Qubes-OS's discussed pros/cons for use in VMs and IIRC the benefits are doubtful due to depending on healthy input entropy and characteristics of VMs (as opposed to actual machines). Running haveged as userspace tool only has uses because applications/scripts can use it as an API to randomness. However, the issue for running haveged userspace while the systemd-service is running, was broken for a while. (Not sure what the status is now.) You would need to investigate in detail, as I am not knowledgeable on this subject, but from my understanding one would run haveged service on newer kernels solely for an overabundance of caution, rather than a necessity to seed the entropy pool. There is an explanation with references on the haveged homepage. The issue should be that *if* the service is running, *then* userspace cannot start. -------- Original Message -------- On Apr 14, 2023, 9:47 PM, Cyril Brulebois < k...@debian.org> wrote: Paul Gevers (2023-04-13): > The release team has announced [1] that failing autopkgtest on amd64 and > arm64 are considered RC in testing. [Release Team member hat on] Because > we're currently in the hard freeze for bookworm, I have marked this bug as > bookworm-ignore, however, I have a strong suspicion that it points out that > the package is broken. Targeted fixes are still welcome. The daemon starts just fine in d-i. The daemon starts just fine from the service unit on baremetal. I'd like extreme caution to be used before considering removing this package. After the 5.4 announce, trying to drop it from the installer didn't go quite well[1]. Maybe that's indeed better after 5.6, but I really don't want to investigate dropping it from the installer for Bookworm. 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2020/03/msg00182.html and replies. Cheers, -- Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org) D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
