On 19/08/2023 at 10:28, Diederik de Haas wrote:
On Monday, 7 August 2023 18:25:07 CEST Jonathan Carter wrote:
Firstly, the instructions start off with "You need to set a password for
'root'", followed by seemingly uninteresting text about what a good password
should be, which makes it incredibly easy for users to miss the part that
sudo won't be set up for the first user.
Then just move the sudo text before the good password text.
So, many users, and especially newcomers to Debian, follow the instructions
in the first line and are then surprised when they can't use sudo from
their user from their newly installed system.
So what ? All they have to do is use su and add themselves to the sudoers.
Would it perhaps make more sense to move the root password setup to the
expert install d-i preseed entirely? Since this is likely only something
that expert users would require in the first place?
Unless there's something actually wrong about having an enabled root account
with a password, I would prefer if the option would stay.
Me too. Unless it changed recently, a root password is required to start
the emergency shell when booting in recovery mode, so not having a root
password makes fixing some problems harder.
move the explanation of what happens upward so that it's
more prominent and not so easy to miss.
Agreed. The good password text is relevant only when the user chooses to
set a root password and not set up sudo for the first user.
