I'm sorry, but it doesn't seem to make much sense
to let the debian users of stable and testing suffer
like this. It's not like Adobe is going to be like
"Oh My God!" and change their ways. They clearly don't
give a damn.

I can't help but sense a political reason not to
support flash, just because it's "non-free", the
maintainers of debian WANT it to be broken, almost,
and certainly don't look hard for a way to give
their users an easy way to use flash. Just as long
as the result is that the users blame Adobe, and
not debian, it's ok - regardless of how much the
users suffer because of it.

Flashplayer could be support, technically, in the
following way:

The flashplugin-nonfree package would keep track
of the last time it downloaded the flashplayer
from Adobe. If an update (ie for security reasons)
is needed, then a new flashplugin-nonfree with
a newer version is released. This would cause
the package to be updated the usual way. The
new package would contain the date at which
Adobe made the lastest version available. If that
date is later than the last time the flashplayer
was downloaded - it is downloaded again, and
installed. If necessary, ie as sanity check, it
is easy to obtain the real version from libflashplayer.so:

strings libflashplayer.so | grep '[0-9]\.[0-9] r[0-9]'
Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48

To make a long story short: TECHNICALLY there is
no reason to rip flashplugin-nonfree out of stable
and testing-- it is therefore not very nice towards
the users of debian and my anger towards Adobe is
now devided over Adobe AS WELL as debian.

-- 
Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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