On 13/12/11 06:59, Robert Millan wrote: > I guess we should allow it to migrate then? > > But I'm still worried about current Wheezy users being forced to > upgrade to 9.0 and hitting problems like #651624.
Haha, I've quite a headache understanding all the combinations. I'll list the ones I can think of -- please correct me wherever: A Squeeze ZFS user would have kfreebsd-8 8.1 and zfsutils 8.1, and may like to: S1. upgrade to kfreebsd-8 8.2, and would need zfsutils 8.2 S2. upgrade to kfreebsd-9, but would need zfsutils 8.3 S3. upgrade to kfreebsd-8 8.3, but would need zfsutils 8.3 Option S1 should be possible right now, but not if zfsutils 8.3 migrates, and not after kfreebsd-8 8.2 is replaced by 8.3 in testing; old versions would have to be used from snapshots.d.o Option S2 is only possible if zfsutils 8.3 migrates. Same for option S3, but that kernel is still in experimental. A current Wheezy user may still be using the kernel+ZFS from Squeeze, but more likely they have the 8.2 version of both. They may want to: W1. keep kfreebsd-8 8.1 -- an upgrade to zfsutils 8.3 should not happen due to Breaks? W2. keep kfreebsd-8 8.2 -- an upgrade to zfsutils 8.3 should not happen due to Breaks? W3. upgrade to kfreebsd-9, but would need zfsutils 8.3 W4. upgrade to kfreebsd-8 8.3, but would need zfsutils 8.3 Options W3 and W4 are only possible if zfsutils 8.3 migrates, or if packages from Sid are used. A new user may want to: N1. use Squeeze, install kfreebsd-8 8.1 with zfsutils 8.1 N2. install kfreebsd-8 8.2 -- ZFS installs break due to d-i using the zfsutils 8.3 udeb which is incompatible with kfreebsd-8 8.2 N3. install kfreebsd-9 9 -- ZFS installs break if only the Wheezy respository is enabled (a default d-i install), as it has no installable zfsutils 8.3 N4. install kfreebsd-8 8.3 -- still in experimental, but will need zfsutils 8.3 too The overall effect of migration, then, is that kfreebsd-8 8.2 would no longer be an install/upgrade option for anyone that needs ZFS (except from snapshots.d.o). But it will open the door for kfreebsd-8 8.3 to soon replace it in Wheezy and in the installer. The migration *must* happen before new/existing Wheezy users (without using Sid) can install/test ZFS with the newer kernels, particularly a problem for the d-i images. I think lots of people (including myself!) ought to be testing these as soon as possible, in the run-up to the release of Wheezy and the new kernels upstream. Upstream were only alerted to #650667 thanks to testing in Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. The only other option I see is to split zfsutils so there is a separate version for installing+running kfreebsd-8 8.2, although that kernel would disappear anyway when 8.3 replaces it. I guess bug #651624 is no longer of concern once the installer is using kfreebsd-8 8.3; I think that was due to the kernel/zfsutils used by the installer. Also it seems #644799 is fixed by newer zfsutils. Thank you! Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org