On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 07:46:00 -0600, Wesley wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> (Removing -legal, since this is just a total tanget) > > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 06:20:08 MJ Ray wrote: > > Wesley J. Landaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sunday 03 June 2007 14:46:12 Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > > > > And what about societies without money? "fee" does NOT equal "money". > > > > Your "common knowledge" is not my understanding ... > > > > > > Okay, now I'm really curious. Exactly which "societies without money" > > > are you talking about? > > > > I'll let the PP answer for himself, but mention that money can be seen as > > a trick and you can read more about that view in Robert Tressell's book > > The Ragged-Trousered Philanthropist, which is PD at Gutenberg; and also > > that local exchange trading schemes exist, but would it make something > > any less a fee if someone can trade their work as payment? > > Well, I totally understand the concept of money and how it can be viewed in > various paradigms. Of course there have always been local exchange systems > and ad hoc trading, etc. > > But seriously, what real "society" actually exists today that has absolutely > no money? Does this same society have computers? Does this really a > self-contained society that really does not have money, or is this just a > small group inside another society who has decided to -- internally -- > pretend like they don't have money[1]? > > I'm honestly curious, because to my knowledge there is no such society > existing on the Earth today. If I'm wrong, hey, maybe I'd like to sign up. > =) > > [1] For example, communes where people work and share together without any > fixed payment. But in reality, they have to sell their goods/services into > the "real" society around them to e.g. pay for property taxes & buy oil for > their windmills, get books to read, and upgrade their harddrives. ..really? Liposuction. Swine lard has been used as lube for milleniums. In wind mills too. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]