On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 10:46:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Of course, within Debian DFSG-freeness isn't mandatory or enforced: you > can upload to non-free instead of main just by tweaking your control file.
The response is predictable, but here it is anyway: non-free isn't within Debian; Debian mandates DFSG-freeness. The practical impact of that is lessened due to the ease at which people can add non-free to their sources; but if it's not fundamentally true, then SC#1 needs serious reinforcement. > The hard part isn't finding the people, it's convincing them that a > DFSG-free license is best. That's why pine and qmail remain in non-free > even though we know exactly who their authors are. Or, for that matter, > most of RMS's writings are still licensed in a non-DFSG-free manner. UW, DJB and RMS may be fairly extreme examples of people who are difficult to convince. :) > No, it's not. In this case, I'd much rather be in a position where I > can argue for making things DFSG-free when I can see enough specifics > to think of good reasons why that woul dbe okay, and remain silent in > the cases where I don't think that's a win. It's usually so easy to find reasons why DFSG-freeness is a good thing, I tend to assume they exist by default. So, I see it the other way around: things should be DFSG-free unless I can see enough specifics to think of good reasons why they shouldn't be. > I don't think remaining silent when people are being pressured to do > things that don't seem right is a good option though, so instead I find > myself arguing against the DFSG. I don't understand how licensing papers DFSG-freely way "doesn't seem right". Incidentally, I care less about papers than many other things, so I'm not going to spend much effort to try to convince people to DFSG-free them; however, I'm a bit interested to understand the rationale behind not wanting to, from people who are beyond "I don't want people putting words in my mouth" responses. (But I understand not wanting to spend time arguing *against* DFSG-freeness.) -- Glenn Maynard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]