Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 06:51:24PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > I personally see the packages in unstable as something good for >> > end-users who want to use it, or understand how the system works; but >> > for Debian's purposes, it's not optimal. >> >> So non "cabal" members should look at a different sbuild and then >> magically figure out where and how the secret one differs? What is the >> point in looking at sbuild if it isn't THE sbuild? > > It's in Debian, and it's easy to use and understand. If it doesn't > diverge too far from the sbuild actually on svn.cyberhqz.com, it's also > good enough to give you a working setup for non-debian systems. IOW, > it should be close enough to the actual thing to be useful for the > general public, but cannot be close enough to the actual thing to be > useful for official build daemons.
Except it isn't working. Since a long time it wasn't able to build zsh, zsh-beta, bash3 for some unknown reason. It just deadlocks. Now its worse since the debian sbuild won't interact nicely with the wanna-build/buildd anymore due to interface changes and the binNMU feature. So now the sid sbuild only works standalone. That is a turn for the worse. >> Last year the aim was to get the buildd sbuild and debian sbuild back >> in sync and it pains me to see Ryan silently diferting it further and >> further instead of aiding that goal. > > That's one way to look at it. > > The other way would be to say that Ryan has recently been actively > working on improving the code in the wanna-build SVN, and that the > people maintaining the sbuild package in Debian (Roger?) haven't been > paying too much attention to their upstream, likely because they didn't > see the link on buildd.debian.org--a link which I, admittedly, had > missed out on at first too, because it used to point to > cvs.linux-m68k.org. There is indeed still a wanna-build CVS repository > over there, but it's been effectively unmaintained for as long as I can > remember. > > It should also be noted that Ryan, as appropriate for an Open Source > developer, is happy to review and (provided he doesn't have any > objections) apply any patches to sbuild or other things, too, as I've > been able to witness first-hand myself in the past. I wasn't looking at it as upstream and debian maintainer but more like a native package with co-maintainers. But yours is a valid point. It just pains me that Debian does not include all the software to build Debian. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]