On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 01:05:47AM +0100, Kjeldgaard Morten wrote: > Hundreds of machines accessing proxies, and thousands having > private IPs. Are these numbers something you know or are you just > throwing them around? Otherwise they can of course be accounted > for in the total estimate ;-)
I could count mine with wc -l (I have to maintain a list to kick off aptitude runs on them all). As for Russ, I'm sure he could at least analyze his mirror's access logs for a more precise value if he wanted to, just as someone with access to the s.d.o logs might. The bigger issue is that there are almost certainly enough sites like ours to make them a drop in the bucket, skewing the measure downward fairly significantly. Economies of scale, security, bandwidth costs, IPv4 runout, et cetera assure that the more Debian machines running at a given location, the less likely it is that you'll be able to count them externally without popcon or somethig similar installed (and as has been discussed, these are the same ones who are less likely to install it site-wide anyway). The most I expect you can hope for here is a relatively reasonable lower bound on actively-updated systems. If "there are probably at least X number of Debian systems on the Internet, but maybe many more" isn't a sufficiently useful statement for you, you might be out of luck. -- { IRL(Jeremy_Stanley); PGP(9E8DFF2E4F5995F8FEADDC5829ABF7441FB84657); SMTP(fu...@yuggoth.org); IRC(fu...@irc.yuggoth.org#ccl); ICQ(114362511); AIM(dreadazathoth); YAHOO(crawlingchaoslabs); FINGER(fu...@yuggoth.org); MUD(fu...@katarsis.mudpy.org:6669); WWW(http://fungi.yuggoth.org/); } -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org