Hi,

Le 26/08/10 01:20, Carsten Hey a écrit :
> * Russ Allbery [2010-08-25 01:13 -0700]:
>> Yves-Alexis Perez <cor...@debian.org> writes:
>>> Would it be possible (at one point) to “fix” it and stop using
>>> unstable as t-p-u and experimental as unstable when freeze is in
>>> action?
>>
>> We could try to get lots of people who normally use unstable to
>> instead test testing plus t-p-u, but I'm not sure they'd be willing to
>> do so.  I for example don't want to switch my unstable systems to
>> testing plus t-p-u for a variety of reasons.
> 
> I think this point is important, people will not switch to the
> distribution we think they should use in specific release phases. This
> is also the reason why I don't think things like adding another
> distribution between stable and testing or testing and unstable would
> have the desired effect.  Instead we should ensure that what we have
> (testing and unstable) contains what we want most of our non-stable
> users to use and test.

I second that. I think that during freeze, packages meant for the
release should still go through unstable for their 10-day testing period.

Making it happen is perhaps not extremely complex. The idea is that, as
mentioned already,
 - updates meant for testing are uploaded in unstable;
 - updates not meant for testing go somewhere else (experimental or
u-p-u or next-unstable or whathever);
 - brand new packages can go anywhere, they won't migrate anyway, but I
would suggest "u-p-u" as well.

During the freeze, transitions from unstable to testing would work the
way it currently works from t-p-u to testing. In order to avoid
erroneous uploads to unstable, a special key in the .dsc file could be
mandated. Uploads to unstable missing this key could go directly to
u-p-u, with a clear message informing the uploader.

u-p-u could be marked noauto, like backports: unstable + u-p-u users
would then be able to install the latest upstream of specific software
while still using and testing most of the packages meant for the release.

Best regards, Thibaut.

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