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Le 11/07/12 14:36, Gergely Nagy a écrit : > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <h...@debian.org> writes: > >> IMO, metapackages should "depend" on the absolutely required >> stuff (and many times that will be the empty set), "recommend" >> the rest, and maybe even "suggest" fringe packages. This >> achieves maximum usability for more usecases, and malfunctions >> only in the unsupported case of "no install recommends by >> default" -- you should skip recommends always in a case-by-case >> basis. > Of course, there could be a "network-manager-gui" virtual package so that gnome-core can depend on "network-manager-gui | network-manager-gnome". By the way, I find it enlightening to realize that "gnome" only recommends network-manager-gnome whereas gnome-core depends on it. > That also achives maximum annoyance, because if I want the full > platform, I'll have to go recommends/suggest hunting. (No, I'm > *not* going to turn on install-recommends.) You don't want to turn on install-recommends, but you are happy with installing a loaded meta-package such as "gnome" or "kde-full"? I very much don't see the rationale behind this. This is what policy has to say about "Recommends": "The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations." >> OTOH, metapackages from hell (like gnome or kde-full) based on >> Depends require me to select them, go to the "will install these" >> screen, deselect the meta package, and go over the list manually >> installing whatever isn't going to be useless/unwelcome for my >> specific case. And I will never notice if the metapackage >> changes its dependency tree later on. > > You could script all that, and keep your local list up-to-date > with about ~10 minutes of work. The annoyance of not being able to uninstall just one of many packages pulled by a big meta-package does not affect only developers. A reasonable solution should be found which works for our priority: our users. Regards, Thibaut. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJP/XofAAoJEJOUU0jg3ChAhm0P/1oAp3bWqeJk66S5vDdHZdPk gKPNZf7h5qcg8ZPdNqmwTRVwmRYa8lrK8tMb1kILBjafhY/FOgRGs//phUN5tHts l28Yz7vlbRnC08ZbpfFW9msuYQ7XGVKROuY3ADnRxu5a9ilLivjNFT9btPsR26U7 /gFgIWYd+oXIdVCU4NYxoU68tY/IXnbheeQ7m5FkJd8I2d1e62eBvFFhrBpUFNwM tcWXJ6BTM13ymV8HIKv1cYgrGKV5nVYyiGvAoR1hnygOqdf4x4owUtdr7lcu9cPG TYiyH0MKmpATD1Vut1FWAHXfcEI4BP+7C8bm1h2pGlj8oBJHGl4Vt0J/fR3sqds8 qXWBVqjCUvVdB4z0LJ+VbT8osKRYUi3cmv/xeUo/nBGDkT8v6xGRsFLWh8aEhCcT kOawGqC6J82z63qjkTkSu7RswAKQBWatMMIwxWRmNYPoC8TZYi3zd4+WFcuOTi70 gM7QBmBNhl3eEfj7MQe9AlSAr824smDxel7tDoqNHNflfp5gShC/VuHJQP1JMinQ dNjATKBi1/EHZw7TBUfy0xXaOgfI3HmxSJMsrpgdJq360P/g8XKTl6fT1sLOxytC eLR8O/96zXRSX+pCkXpFiSke2pbnVidoXYbJwc6QV6KdncuSAj2ZHEJ3bIlhisOX /pALGJ09d5eCj/JREiXo =Bi/k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ffd7a20.2030...@users.sourceforge.net