* Roland Mas: > Hilko Bengen, 2013-02-06 14:46:11 +0100 : > > [...] > >> I am pretty sure that if you asked about packaging software in the >> Python, Perl, Ruby, Java, Lua communities, you would get recommendations >> to not use Debian packages at all and get pointers to what the >> respective community considers a solution to the packaging problem (if >> they see it as a problem at all). > > I can only speak about Python and Perl, but I don't remember *ever* > having been told to use their deployment system instead of the packaged > versions of the interpreter and modules. The closest I've seen is > something like "if you're running CentOS or RHEL, then you'll need this > plethora of modules that are not packaged, so please use our > language-specific system to install them instead".
I have heard exactly what I described at Perl conferences more than once. The root cause may have been that some versions of RHEL still ship Perl 5.8.something and ancient, broken versions of some modules, but I had the impression that some (not all) people over-generalized this view to every Linux distribution, including Debian. If you need or want to run the current stable Perl (5.16.2) and the latest-greatest modules on wheezy, it's going to be in your best interest to use things like perlbrew and local::lib (which are both shipped with Debian). That upstream's preferences may differ from ours is not even a problem, as long as no-one tries to enforce his values on users. I don't see such attempts in the Perl and Go communities. > So it is possible for a language community to work with the > distributors rather than against. And it's possible for Debian to at least *try* to work with any language community. Simply calling people "idiots" when one hasn't yet understood the other community's values/interests/position does not help, of course. ;-) Cheers, -Hilko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87halplbvt....@msgid.hilluzination.de