On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:04:53 +0100
Adrien CLERC <adr...@antipoul.fr> wrote:

> >>> And SysVInit just works well and it is simply enough. It has much less 
> >>> dependencies than systemd. Do not make unneeded weight on people to learn 
> >>> systemd in addition to shell scripts, if systemd is powerful that also 
> >>> means there is a lot to learn. I really doubt non-standards task can be 
> >>> solved with systemd without shell scripts (or similar), and every serious 
> >>> UNIX admin must know shell programming anyway.
> >> This is like saying "A horse drawn carrage works well enough, why do you
> >> need an airplane".
> > You need an airplane because Earth is 40,000 km in round and because you 
> > have a reason to travel to a distant location. Or just you want to do some 
> > sport? But I know my possibilities and I wouldn't spend my money on an 
> > airplane just for sport, to produce an airplane you have to take raw 
> > materials out of this planet, you have to spend power, human time, make 
> > pollution, etc.
> >
> That's exactly how I feel when I want to create a small daemon using a 
> SystemV init script. I feel like building an airplane from scratch while 
> I would just use a bike.

Use /etc/init.d/skeleton and you'll see it's very simple.

> 
> Introducing the concept of "possibilities" is interesting: sometimes, 
> you need some choices in your available tools to perform the same task, 
> depending on your current need…
> 
> Adrien

Shell is a programming language. It cannot be less flexible then config
files. But there is also an interesting point. We are currently not
using BASH features for init scripts. As I remember, BASH was bloated
or smt, but certainly less than systemd is.


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