On 10/11/14 10:15, Michael Ole Olsen wrote: > If there was a choice in the installer for Init system > and boot loader there would be nobody complaining.
If I had to choose an init system and a boot loader during the normal installation flow, I'd complain. Options have a cost, forcing a user to answer a question before they can continue (whether they know or care about the answer or not) has a higher cost, and I think one of the major improvements in debian-installer (and package installation in general) since I started using Debian is that it asks *fewer* questions. If you have sufficiently specialized requirements that our recommended default is unsuitable, that's a good time to look into the "expert" installer mode, pre-seeding, or installing with the default init/bootloader/etc. and switching afterwards. For instance, for the init side of things, I did some testing at the weekend which confirms that preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core" does what you might expect. > forced to use GUI desktop crap when they want a server (ubuntu) I wouldn't use it myself, because I prefer Debian, but http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server does exist. Installing servers with the standard installer and accidentally getting a full GUI seems to be a common mistake for new Ubuntu users, and I think Debian is right to present that choice as an option in the installer rather than an entirely separate installation image, but I can understand Ubuntu's point of view here. S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5460a1fe.2030...@debian.org