2014-11-28 23:29 GMT+01:00 Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl>:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:36:22PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:21:48PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> > Is that as "easy" as running current GNOME without systemd, which is
>> > surely possible?
>>
>> Much easier. Note that if you want GNOME without systemd, it required
>> actual effort instead of doing petty jabs on mailing lists. Actual
>> effort was done amongst others the developers of systemd-shim. Currently
>> not having systemd and use GNOME is quite easy on Debian.
>
> Uh?
> gnome-settings-daemon → libpam-systemd → systemd
>
> (There's more to systemd than just pid 1.)

I think he meant systemd, the PID 1 specifically here.
As for the other parts: You couldn't have GNOME without ConsoleKit or
GTK+ before either...


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