Martin Steigerwald - 01.11.19, 09:25:07 CET: > Adam D. Barratt - 01.11.19, 07:47:48 CET: > > On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 00:54 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > > > On Thu, 2019-10-31 at 22:40 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > > On Oct 31, Svante Signell <svante.sign...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > When elogind enters testing there would be many more people > > > > > running > > > > > Debian with sysvinit/elogind. elogind is needed for desktop > > > > > usage > > > > > when not using systemd as PID 1. > > > > > > > > elogind is already in testing: I will be delighted to see how > > > > the > > > > number of testing/unstable users running sysvinit will change > > > > in > > > > November. > > > > > > Marco, I think your information about elogind is not up-to-date: > > > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/elogind > > > > > > testing migrations: > > > excuses: > > > Migration status for elogind (239.3+20190131-1+debian1 to > > > > > > 241.3-1+debian1): Will attempt migration (Any information below is > > > purely informational) > > > > No, Marco's statement was entirely correct, and proved so by your > > own > > quote above. > > > > That line says that elogind 239.3+20190131-1+debian1 is currently in > > testing, and that an updated version is attempting to migrate. A > > version of elogind has been in testing for 10 months now. > > But this is the version where it is still difficult to switch over. It > usually involves uninstalling the desktop and installing it again. > Also as to what I know it needs a package "that is not supposed to > exist" from Debian experimental > > So asking for this version how many will adopt it, in my viewpoint, is > kind of unfair. I migrated two desktop laptops and it was not exactly > fun with at least the second one. With the first it worked a bit > smoother. > > As long as it involves that hassle, likely only a few will migrate.
Aside from that the second laptop disappeared from Debian statistics already. Cause it is a Devuan meanwhile. Of course that raises the question on what relationship with a downstream like Devuan to aim for. Make it easy for them to keep the differences at a minimum or not? And also specifically people using Debian asked about using elogind *with* Debian. -- Martin