On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 20:20 +0100, Patrice Duroux wrote: > There are many projects here and there (Termux, AnLinux, etc.) that are based > on > some sorts of kernel-free images of a minimal Debian system to be used through > chroot (other Linux) or PRoot (Android) or whatever environments.
Some examples of those linked from this page: https://wiki.debian.org/ChrootOnAndroid > Is there something already available at Debian? Most Debian users are currently expected to create their own installs, using either the official Debian installer or the tools it is based on like debootstrap. One of the reasons for this is that packages often do system-specific configuration in their maintainer scripts (like the systemd machine identifier or OpenSSH creating private keys), so you can't always expect an install to be able to be duplicated safely. There are folks working on reproducible installs though. https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleInstalls There have been five types of pre-installed systems available from the Debian community; live images, cloud images, RPi images, minimal docker containers, and the WSL install. The first three of those are partition images, but the WSL installer is basically a kernel-free rootfs tarball wrapped in a PE executable and the docker containers are similarish. All of these have to work around the issue mentioned above. https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ https://cloud.debian.org/images/cloud/ https://raspi.debian.net/ https://docker.debian.net/ https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Microsoft/Windows/SubsystemForLinux > Something interesting to develop? There are lots of potential artefacts Debian could create from our binaries rather than expecting all users to install their systems. There are lots of different types of installs being explored outside of Debian, including system snapshots, server containers, app containers, appliance images, chroots/VMs under other operating systems etc. Debian could potentially be converting our binary packages to each of these different types of installs. Debian users could then be directed by default to the most appropriate install type for their use-case. PS: a list of system/package build tools is here: https://wiki.debian.org/SystemBuildTools PS: a recent article about some new image based installs: https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/912774/b95d0bf96ebb67ab/ -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
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