On 28.11.20 19:30, Pierre Gruet wrote: > Hi Andreas and Steffen, > > Le 28/11/2020 à 00:38, Steffen Möller a écrit : >> Hi Pierre, >> >> On 27.11.20 23:10, Andreas Tille wrote: >>> Hi Pierre, >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 10:48:13PM +0100, Pierre Gruet wrote: >>>> I'm stumbling upon the license terms of a part of the code (which is >>>> important enough so that the whole program really needs it) of the new >>>> release of Jalview I am packaging: that part has a license >>>> identical to >>>> BSD-3-clause except that clause 3 bas been changed to: >>>> >>>> 3. Redistributions must acknowledge that this software was >>>> originally developed by the UCSF Computer Graphics Laboratory >>>> under support by the NIH National Center for Research >>>> Resources, >>>> grant P41-RR01081. >>>> >>>> I'm really doubting this can be seen as DFSG-free: >>>> - "acknowledge" seems vague to me; >>>> - it looks like someone could be sued if he made a derived work >>>> without a >>>> sentence about the original developer and the grant number. >>> I agree it is vague but I personally assume that its just that you >>> mention the authors in your scientific results. >> I also think it is fine. Just paste it as such in d/copyright for the >> files this appears in. >>>> Maybe you have a definitive answer? Else should I write to >>>> debian-le...@lists.debian.org or to FTPmasters ? >>> Keeping upstream as well as debian-legal in CC makes sense. >> >> I do not see anything of concern here. A note that the creator of a file >> shall not be forgotten over time you find almost everywhere. And here >> they also ask to mention the grant number. Fine with me. Actually, as a >> tax payer I even somewhat appreciate this and it may be of historic >> interest to chase up how different folks came together in various grants >> over time or how different grants from different decades interact in >> larger workflows or how long it takes until a new development finds it >> ways into desktop machines. >> >> We should probably also find a way to model that in d/u/metadata
I just checked https://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamMetadata . It is "Funding". But mentioning this there seems like stressing the NIH too much for what is developed in Glasgow, UK. The home page lists BBSRC and Wellcome Trust as its supporters. >> ... but >> days only have 24 hours ... maybe not. >> > > Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts on this. After thinking again, > I agree with you and will go on packaging with this. Of course I will > put this in d/copyright :) :) Steffen
