Hi,

        To summarize, here are a few use cases:
 1) A directory that lives in the package is replaced by a symbolic link
    to another partition (I've done it in a space crunch, people sharing
    directories using AFS run into similar issues.)


 2)  Remote mounting a directory from one machine on to another with a
     different path (I often use sshfs to work on remote machines,
     people using NFS also fall into this category

        In case 1, relative symlinks pointing outside the heirarchy
 break; since the relative path to an external file is different from
 the old and the new location.
  Example:
   /var/lib/foo --> /u/foo
   /var/lib/foo/log should point to /var/logs/foo.log
    /u/foo/log --> /var/logs/foo.log      --- works
    /u/foo/log --> ../../logs/foo.log     --- fails


        In case A, symlinks pointing inside the path hierarchy continue
 to work (that is, a symlink with no ../ path component are sure to
 work, symlinks pointing up will break is the local relocation is in
 that upward path). So, I agree with Russ that symbolic links in the
 same tree should be encouraged, since that helps out in case 2, and
 does not break case 1.

        In case 2, absolute paths in the same directory tree would point
 to the work machine, not to the files they point to.
   Example:
   machineA:/var  mounted on /mnt/machineA
  /var/lib/foo/log should point to /var/logs/foo.log
    /u/foo/log --> ../../logs/foo.log     --- Works
    /u/foo/log --> /var/logs/foo.log      --- fails (points to my
                                              foo.log, not MachneA's)

        The original policy was supposed to allow the latter to work as
 well, but it all boils down to common case. I often use sshfs, but that
 might not be the common case.

        Rhonda made the suggestion that we allow absolute links /usr/*
 and /var/* symlinks to be absolute between different hierarchies, since
 these hierarchies are often the target of relocation-via-symlinking. 

        A suggestion was made that links in the /usr/share/doc/
 hierarchy could remain relative (/usr/share/doc/bash-doc/examples ->
 ../bash/examples, perhaps for the reason that people are unlikely to
 move just one directory out of /usr/share/doc/ via symlinks, and we
 might as well not break case 2 for folks.

        I think case 1 is more important than case 2, since the latter
 is a convenience and useful for remote admin, but case 1 helps out the
 local machine, and is often a godsend in critical nearly out of disk
 space on important server situation.

        Do we have consensus that a:
 a) links that do not climb directory trees should be encouraged to be
    relative (do not break case 2)
 b) subdirectories of /var/*/ and /usr/* should be treated as top level
    directories for the purposes of the relative/absolute symlink rule:
    any links that climbs out of /usr/foo/bar or /var/foo/bar should be
    absolute, and the rest of the current rule stays in place?

        manoj
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