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Subject: Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:38:49 -0700
From: David Christensen <dpchr...@holgerdanske.com>
To: Gareth Evans <donots...@fastmail.fm>

On 4/17/24 03:47, Gareth Evans wrote:
On Wed 17/04/2024 at 09:18, David Christensen <dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
On 4/16/24 08:56, Gareth Evans wrote:
On 16 Apr 2024, at 00:18, David Christensen <dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
On 4/15/24 09:21, Gareth Evans wrote:
On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote:
...
I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years.
Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!).
...
2024-04-15 16:08:23 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ ps aux | grep nm-applet
dpchrist    1518  0.1  0.2 426500 35380 ?        Sl   16:06   0:00 nm-applet
dpchrist    1940  0.0  0.0   3240   644 pts/0    S+   16:15   0:00 grep 
nm-applet

2024-04-15 16:15:12 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ nm-applet

2024-04-15 16:15:31 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ ps aux | grep nm-applet
dpchrist    1518  0.1  0.2 426500 35380 ?        Sl   16:06   0:00 nm-applet
dpchrist    1952  0.0  0.0   3240   644 pts/0    S+   16:15   0:00 grep 
nm-applet

That seems to show it's running from the outset, just not being displayed on 
the panel.

Does rebooting (or logging out and in again) bring it back?


No.

OK.  You may have checked this already, but in case not, if I install XFCE and 
go to

Settings > Session and Startup > Application Autostart

there is an entry in the list called

"Network (Manage your network connections)"


It is checked.


which shows a tooltip of "command: nm-applet"


Command: nm-applet


Might this somehow have become unset?

I'm not sure if it's possible for GUI config helpers to become detached from 
actual settings - this seems to describe the relevant locations:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/669372/xfce4-session-and-startup-where-are-autostart-items-saved


2024-04-17 11:21:06 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ grep nm-applet ~/.config/autostart
grep: /home/dpchrist/.config/autostart: No such file or directory

2024-04-17 11:33:11 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ find .config -name autostart

2024-04-17 11:33:22 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$


2024-04-17 11:34:14 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ grep -r nm-applet /etc/xdg/autostart
/etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop:Exec=nm-applet
/etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop:X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Component=nm-applet


My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to find if and where any error message is reported.


David

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